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Low Price and International Editions of textbooks are significantly cheaper alternatives to standard US editions, often available in softcover and less expensive formats. Students in Canada are seeking reliable online sources to purchase these editions without incurring high costs typical of university bookstores. While some platforms like eBay and Amazon offer these editions, concerns about legality and quality persist, particularly regarding publishers' restrictions on sales. The discussion highlights that purchasing these international editions is not illegal, despite publisher warnings, and emphasizes the disparity in textbook pricing between the US and other countries. The conversation also touches on the need for more competition in the textbook market to drive down prices and suggests exploring free educational resources.
  • #31
mathwonk said:
you are sick mr rox. why lose your soul because other people are evil.

I buy my books from a second hand store, but usually always at the University Bookstore itself.

Lose my soul?

Note: Just because I'm not against theft of textbooks does not mean I steal them myself.
 
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  • #32
i apologize for judging you. sometimes (often?) I go off half cocked, or half crocked.

ironically, after this discussion, the morning paper had a cartoon, "non sequitur" by wiley that i think is relevant, a guy out on a lonely road that ended in a crossing "one of the inevitable intersections on the road of life":

the sign to the right read "morally right", the sign to the left read "legally right".:smile:
 
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  • #33
mathwonk said:
i apologize for judging you. sometimes (often?) I go off half cocked, or half crocked.

ironically, after this discussion, the morning paper had a cartoon, "non sequitur" by wiley that i think is relevant, a guy out on a lonely road that ended in a crossing "one of the inevitable intersections on the road of life":

the sign to the right read "morally right", the sign to the left read "legally right".:smile:

It's alright.

I just hope you understand my point.

I know there are some hard working authors and some that aren't (James E. Stewart).

We need to pay them, but publishers get much more money than they do. Students get shafted to the point that people ask, is this even legal?

Stealing a textbook in my opinion is not entirely morally wrong. If I was living many years ago, and saw Galois stealing a book because he couldn't afford one, I would have let him go. I'm also assuming that I didn't know he was a great mathematician. The whole point is that some people flat out can't afford the books, but have the ability to read them, understand them, and make more out of the book than those who buy them.

But the whole process relies on the rational decision by the one stealing. If the person is intending to make the most out of the textbook, I say it's morally right.

If it's because they want to make some money by selling it back, or to save money on course (if you are taking a course, you should be able to afford the book) textbook, then I'd say they are both morally wrong.

So, basically if it's purely for knowledge sake, then it is morally right.
 
  • #34
I sympathize, but disagree. Because I have lived a long time, done many wrong things, and regret all of them. I oppose stealing in almost any circumstance, but in this particular circumstance I am also trying to make a point that it is unnnecessary and even counterproductive (as it always is ultimately).

I.e. these people are stealing books not because those books are the ones they would learn more from, as Galois might do, but because those are the books that are "required" for their degrees, which is a stupid immoral and unwise thing to do.

really, the best books are not always the most costly ones. i am confident I am not wrong here, and I am trying to teach something to young people. I have lived a long time and gone to many schools and paid huge tuition to ripoff places like harvard, etc,...

then at last I met an interesting man, who taught me more than i had learned anywhere else, and among other things he said something very simple: "attention will get you teachers".

i.e. the real price of tuition is merely to listen to the wisdom of a teacher. students with the intelligence to actually pay attention to the wisdom being offered for free are so rare that those teachers will in turn teach them for free.

since that day (35 years ago) i have never paid one cent of tuition and i have been a postdoc at harvard, been welcomed by some of the worlds finest mathematicians, a paid participant at IAS sponsored summer meetings, an invitee and beneficiary of international meetings, etc, etc. I have received hundreds of thousands of dollars of grant money to pursue my work.

this is hard to believe for someone raised in our society of "ripoff before you get ripped off", but it is true.

he who has ears,... you know the rest.


I realize extremely few people will learn this lesson so easily. wisdom is not really expensive, that is not why it is rare, rather there are so few people willing to listen to it. read proverbs: wisdom is crying in the street and no one answers.


there was a scene in a stupid buffoonery filled movie called "bedazzled" where the devil tries to tell dudley moore some advice and dudley ignores him. the devil remarks, oh yes, you are poor, frustrated in your ambition, besieged by tigers, and your girl friend loves another man, why should you pay attention to the advice of the ancients?

pay heed: if you are successful in your academic careeer you will become a teacher, and the frustration of the teacher is that the teacher offers so much, but the stduents accept so little from it.


peace:smile:
 
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  • #35
I am also one of those students who have sought to save some dough by purchasing paperback editions online. It backfired on me in one instance though. In the last semester (Spring 06), I bought a book on Half.com, only to get a call from my advisor an hour later than I didn't need to take that class that I bought the book for. The seller wouldn't let me cancel my order, so I got stuck with the book. Worse still, the book took 3 weeks to arrive so it was too late to try to sell to a classmate. I relisted the book on Half.com in FEB, no takers for 4 months. And now I just got a notice from Half.com that my listing has been terminated because it does not permit sale of international editions anymore. I am not aware of any classes that will require this book in the near future (i.e. Summer or fall semesters) so it looks like I am stuck.

So... does anyone know of any textbook sites that buy back international editions from students?

Thanks.
 
  • #36
JasonRox said:
The whole point is that some people flat out can't afford the books, but have the ability to read them, understand them, and make more out of the book than those who buy them.

That's why we have libraries. Even if your local college or university has awful resources, many participate in interlibrary loans. More and more solid free (legal) materials are appearing online in electric form these days, there's not much of an excuse to steal books in my opinion.



For deals on books, I've made it a habit to go into every used book store and book sale I pass. Math texts are sometimes horribly undervalued. I picked up baby rudin in an "all the books you can carry for a dollar" sale. Another good source is math departments in the spring time. I've walked past many an abandoned text that was no longer needed (free sample copies from publishers, old editions, etc.).

International editions always annoyed me being softcover. I know that's not the sole reason they are cheaper, but I would usually be willing to pay less for a softcover option. Which reminds me of Dover, good source for cheap texts. They're quality too, while I've damaged some of the covers horribly in my bag, I've never had one fall apart on me.
 
  • #37
LeonhardEuler said:
If you read the rest of the article it talks about publishers putting stickers on the books that say "International Edition RESTRICTED Not for Sale in North America" and also about getting books from asia. I'm pretty sure that they can't restrict idividuals from selling any of there books to people in other countries. They restrict wholesalers from buying foriegn books through their contracts.

edit: oh, by the way I have the international edition of Griffiths. I think it costed something like $30.

Did you get this book online?
 
  • #38
Why don't you try to search amazon sites or book stores ?
No matter what the book cover mentions, for international students only or for public, for sale only in US or anywhere else, the book once publised is for everyone.
 
  • #39
That Indian site...

Are the books really that much cheaper.

Most of the books I looked up are around 4000 rupees, which is around 47 pounds.
 
  • #40
J77 said:
That Indian site...

Are the books really that much cheaper.

Most of the books I looked up are around 4000 rupees, which is around 47 pounds.
Those are the US/UK editions. Go to the advanced search and check the 'Special Priced Indian Edition Only' box (this is the only reason I visit that site). The search might not work properly at all times. In that case, just try various combinations using the author's name and the title/subject of the book.
 

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