Where can I find reliable cable properties for lock-in amplifiers?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding reliable sources for cable properties relevant to lock-in amplifiers, specifically focusing on the speed of propagation for coaxial cables. Participants explore potential references, including manufacturer datasheets and the Handbook of Chemistry and Physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a reliable book or journal for cable properties, particularly the speed of propagation for coaxial cables.
  • Another suggests that manufacturer datasheets are likely the easiest and most reliable source for cable characteristics.
  • There is a question about the acceptability of quoting manufacturer datasheets in academic journals.
  • Some participants express that quoting stable datasheets, such as those for Cat-5, Cat-6, and standard coax cables, should be acceptable.
  • A later reply advises that in case of doubt, one should include the product number or release date from the datasheet when referencing it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that manufacturer datasheets are a valid source for cable properties, but there is uncertainty regarding the academic acceptability of referencing these datasheets in journals.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of consensus on the specific criteria for referencing manufacturer datasheets in academic work, and the discussion does not resolve whether all datasheets are considered stable or reliable.

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Hey all,

I'm doing an investigate into lock-in amplifiers and am looking for a book, or journal, which has a collection of properties/ characteristics for cables?

For example, I'm particularily looking for a reliable source to quote the speed of propagation of a particular co-axial cable!

I've had a thought about using the latest edition of the Handbook of chemistry and physics; but am not hopeful it will contain what i need!

Hopefully someone has encountered a relevant source

Thanks!

~Blind
 
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BlindRacoon said:
Hey all,

I'm doing an investigate into lock-in amplifiers and am looking for a book, or journal, which has a collection of properties/ characteristics for cables?

For example, I'm particularily looking for a reliable source to quote the speed of propagation of a particular co-axial cable!

I've had a thought about using the latest edition of the Handbook of chemistry and physics; but am not hopeful it will contain what i need!

Hopefully someone has encountered a relevant source

Thanks!

~Blind

Welcome to the PF.

It would probably be easiest to look at the datasheets for the cables you are interested in. You can find the datasheets at the manufacturer's websites. Belden is a big manufacturer of cables, for example.
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF.

It would probably be easiest to look at the datasheets for the cables you are interested in. You can find the datasheets at the manufacturer's websites. Belden is a big manufacturer of cables, for example.

Thanks for the welcome!


Cheers, I will have a look thank you.

I thought i'd just check, Is it acceptable to quote a manufacters reference sheet in a journal?
 
BlindRacoon said:
Thanks for the welcome!


Cheers, I will have a look thank you.

I thought i'd just check, Is it acceptable to quote a manufacters reference sheet in a journal?

Hmm, that's a good question. I would think so, as long as the datasheet is stable. Datasheets for Cat-5 and Cat-6 twisted pair cables are quite stable. Standard types of coax cable like RG-8 should also have very stable datasheets.
 
berkeman said:
Hmm, that's a good question. I would think so, as long as the datasheet is stable. Datasheets for Cat-5 and Cat-6 twisted pair cables are quite stable. Standard types of coax cable like RG-8 should also have very stable datasheets.

I've found a datasheet with what I'm looking for, thanks...

As for the referencing i'lll investigate further whether or not I can reference it; like you said if it's reliable i don't see why not!

If worse comes to worse, ill reference it and hope for the best!

Thanks again for the quick reply
 
In case of doubt, quote the data sheet with whatever product number or release date the manufacturer put on it.

When the properties change, the manufacturer should either change the product number or re-release the data sheet with a different publication date.
 

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