Where can I find the formula for the relavistic rocket equation?

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The discussion centers around the search for the relativistic rocket equation, specifically focusing on the mass of fuel required to accelerate a rocket from rest to a specified velocity (β) under a given acceleration (A), with the rocket's mass (M) considered without fuel. The context is set within the frame of reference of Earth, and there is mention of various fuel types, particularly fusion.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests information on the relativistic rocket equation and expresses interest in the mass of fuel needed for acceleration, mentioning fusion as a promising fuel type.
  • Another participant provides a link to a webpage that discusses the rocket equation, noting that it assumes a 100% conversion of mass to energy, which may not be realistic.
  • A third participant presents the classical rocket equation and describes how it can be adapted to a relativistic version, including specific formulas for velocity and specific impulse.
  • A later reply expresses gratitude for the information provided, indicating that it meets their needs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to disagree on the need for the relativistic rocket equation, but there are varying levels of detail and assumptions presented regarding the equations and fuel types. The discussion remains open without a consensus on a single formula or approach.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about fuel efficiency and the limitations of current fuel types, particularly in relation to the mass-energy conversion. There are unresolved aspects regarding the practical application of the relativistic rocket equation.

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Hi all,

Does anyone know where I can find the formula for the relavistic rocket equation? That is, I want to know the mass of fuel required to accelerate a rocket from 0 to β, for a given acceleration A, assuming the rocket (with no fuel) has a mass of M. All of this would be in the frame of the Earth. I know there are several types of proposed Sci-Fi fuels but I think fusion is the most promising. A reliable webpage would be great. Thanks!
 
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The classical rocket equation

v_{class.} = p_{sp} \cdot \ln \frac{{m_0 }}{m}

can be upgraded to a relativistic version by

v_{rel.} = \frac{{v_{class.} }}{{\sqrt {1 + \frac{{v_{class.}^2 }}{{c^2 }}} }}

and

p_{sp.} = c \cdot \sqrt {\left[ {2 + \left( {\eta - 2} \right) \cdot d} \right] \cdot \eta \cdot d}

where d is the mass defect and \eta the efficiency.
 
Oh hey guys great! Thanks! I think that will do it.
 

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