Where Can I Study Particle Physics in Australia?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the availability of particle physics courses at universities in Australia, particularly in Victoria. Participants share their experiences and knowledge regarding institutions that offer relevant programs, as well as the educational path typically taken to enter the field of particle physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • A year 11 student expresses interest in studying particle physics and seeks information on universities in Victoria that offer such courses.
  • One participant mentions the University of Sydney as a potential option, noting that it teaches foundational topics in particle physics, but acknowledges the need for a strong background in classical physics and mathematics.
  • Another participant emphasizes that a typical path to becoming a particle physicist involves obtaining an undergraduate degree in physics before specializing in graduate school.
  • Several participants correct the geographical error regarding the University of Sydney, clarifying that it is located in New South Wales, not Victoria.
  • A participant recommends the University of Melbourne as a leading institution for particle physics in Australia, highlighting its active research groups and undergraduate opportunities, while also mentioning other universities like ANU and the University of Queensland.
  • It is noted that while the University of Melbourne has a strong focus on particle physics, ANU has a more significant emphasis on nuclear physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of a physics undergraduate degree as a prerequisite for studying particle physics, but there is no consensus on the best university options, as different participants suggest various institutions based on their experiences.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about the educational pathways and the specific offerings of universities, which may vary and are not fully detailed in the conversation.

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Hey!
I am a year 11 student from Australia and I am wanting to take course(s) in particle physics at university/college after high school. I am just wondering where I can do this as I haven't found many universities (In Victoria) that offer this. If anyone has experience from overseas I would love to hear it. Thanks
 
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Junii1 said:
Hey!
I am a year 11 student from Australia and I am wanting to take course(s) in particle physics at university/college after high school. I am just wondering where I can do this as I haven't found many universities (In Victoria) that offer this. If anyone has experience from overseas I would love to hear it. Thanks
A quick view on Sidney didn't look too bad. They offer courses where at least the foundations of the topic are taught. To me it seems to be a good starting point. Further information will automatically show up if you will be in such an environment. Until then there's a lot of work left to do, including classical physics and a lot of math (the kind of that is usually not being taught at school).
http://sydney.edu.au/
 
Particle physics isn't something you start with. All of the particle physicists I now started out with an undergraduate degree in physics and then specialized in graduate school.
 
Choppy is right. (And Fresh 42, Sydney isn't in Victoria - it's in New South Wales; Victoria universities would be Melbourne and Monash)
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Choppy is right. (And Fresh 42, Sydney isn't in Victoria - it's in New South Wales; Victoria universities would be Melbourne and Monash)
I know. I just looked up a university I was quite sure of it has a good physics department. And it's still closer than "overseas".
 
Junii1 said:
Hey!
I am a year 11 student from Australia and I am wanting to take course(s) in particle physics at university/college after high school. I am just wondering where I can do this as I haven't found many universities (In Victoria) that offer this. If anyone has experience from overseas I would love to hear it. Thanks
Melbourne university is The Place To Be in Australia for particle physics. They have a rather large, vibrant group that works on the ATLAS collaboration (ETA amongst other things, including BELLE II and theory stuff). Most of COEPP is there, and there are plenty of undergraduate opportunities for research. http://www.coepp.org.au/
There are also particle physics groups at USyd, and at Adelaide, though they are smaller and more theoretically focused. Further, Uni Melb and the ANU are getting together to do a direct dark matter detection experiment in Stawell, Victoria, to follow on from DAMA/LIBRE.

As far as "general" physics degrees in Australia goes, I'd go for ANU, Uni Melbourne, University of Queensland and USyd, in decreasing order of preference. But Uni Melbourne has more particle physics than ANU (ANU, on the other hand has much more nuclear physics than Uni Melbourne.)

ETA: And I can assure you that Uni Melb has a nuclear/particle physics course in undergrad, taught by particle physicists. As does ANU. But others in this thread are correct: most people who do particle physics in graduate school do a general physics undergraduate degree.
 
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