Where could I look for down-to-earth X-ray facts?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interaction of X-rays and gamma rays with materials, focusing on reflection, attenuation, and practical implications in a laboratory setting. Participants explore the behavior of these photons in relation to surfaces and the factors influencing their penetration and reflection.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Allison seeks resources to understand how X-rays and gamma rays interact with materials, particularly regarding reflection and attenuation.
  • Some participants suggest that X-rays behave similarly to visible light, following the same basic rules regarding penetration and reflection.
  • There is a discussion about the extent to which X-rays can penetrate materials, with some noting that more energetic light can penetrate further.
  • Participants mention that different wavelengths of light, including X-rays, reflect differently based on the arrangement of electrons in materials.
  • Allison questions the claim that X-rays reflect less than visible light, seeking clarification on this point.
  • There is an inquiry into whether increasing the mA (photon flux) for a given time affects image noise compared to a lower photon flux over a longer time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that X-rays follow similar principles to visible light in terms of reflection and penetration, but there is no consensus on the extent of reflection compared to visible light. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of how X-rays reflect off surfaces and the implications for laboratory safety.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the behavior of X-rays and their interaction with materials are not fully explored, and the discussion does not resolve the complexities of how different materials affect X-ray reflection and absorption.

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Hello,

I'd like to know which book or papers I'd read to understand, possibly without too rigorous mathematics knowledge, how do photons like X-rays or gamma ones reflect off surfaces and attenuate through solids or generally speaking, facts about how do they interact with the real world.

So far I've found this nice calculator which comes really handy to understand which percentage of X-rays at a certain keV will pass thru (http://web-docs.gsi.de/~stoe_exp/web_programs/x_ray_absorption/) and probably answers all my needs about attenuation, however I would also like to know how good/bad do they reflect off metallic surfaces in a lab setting, so that apart common sense I could guess what are the chances of X-rays entering from a slightly opened shielded door (left in that way by hasty colleagues) performing a radiograph in the next room onto a flat table.
Do they infiltrate into gaps like fluids or more likely bounce in straight lines like visible light?
Considering the same generator energy, would increasing mA (photon flux) for a certain time also increase image noise, or would it be equal to a lower photon flux in a longer time (so that mA * time yield the same result in both cases)?

Thank you

Allison
 
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Do they infiltrate into gaps like fluids or more likely bounce in straight lines like visible light?
Bouncey.

Bottom line: x-rays are a kind of light, so follow the same rules as for visible light.
All light can shine through a certain thickness of material, depending ont he material, for instance.
The brighter the light, the farther it travels in material, and also the more energetic the light ... so blue light is more penetrating than red.
Some materials are particularly good at absorbing some wavelengths though ... ruining the rule of thumb above.

I would also like to know how good/bad do they reflect off metallic surfaces in a lab setting...
http://universe.gsfc.nasa.gov/xrays/MirrorLab/xoptics.html

Considering the same generator energy, would increasing mA (photon flux) for a certain time also increase image noise, or would it be equal to a lower photon flux in a longer time (so that mA * time yield the same result in both cases)?
It's much the same idea as shining a brighter light on something.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Bouncey.

Bottom line: x-rays are a kind of light, so follow the same rules as for visible light.
All light can shine through a certain thickness of material, depending ont he material, for instance.
The brighter the light, the farther it travels in material, and also the more energetic the light ... so blue light is more penetrating than red.
Some materials are particularly good at absorbing some wavelengths though ... ruining the rule of thumb above.http://universe.gsfc.nasa.gov/xrays/MirrorLab/xoptics.html

It's much the same idea as shining a brighter light on something.

I see thank you. I've read that while following the same rules of visible light, they reflect a lot less, how true is this?

Thank you for the links
 
The more energetic the light, the further it may penetrate a material before being reflected or absorbed.
Also: Just like different colors of visible light may be reflected differently (which is roughly how objects get their color), so different wavelengths get reflected differently. The determining factor is how the electrons (or other charges) are arranged in the material.
You will have noticed that not all materials reflect visible light.
The same goes for light that is not visible.
 
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I see, now it makes sense, thank you very much!
 

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