Where could one buy an electromagnet for lifting 200kg

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the search for an electromagnet capable of lifting over 200kg (441 lbs). Participants explore various sources and types of magnets, emphasizing the distinction between electromagnets and permanent magnets, as well as specific applications and requirements for the electromagnet.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares a personal anecdote about a small electromagnet used for demonstrations, expressing a need for a stronger electromagnet that can lift over 200kg.
  • Another participant questions the size of electromagnets the original poster has found and mentions the existence of detachable permanent magnets with mechanisms for detachment.
  • A different participant suggests searching for "electromagnet" on Amazon, noting that several options related to door locks meet the described requirements.
  • Another participant recommends McMaster-Carr as a source for electromagnets, highlighting that they offer models capable of lifting up to 5,000 lbs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best source for the desired electromagnet, as multiple suggestions are provided, and the discussion includes differing opinions on the types of magnets available.

Contextual Notes

There is no resolution on the specific requirements for the electromagnet, such as the balance between strength and the desire to avoid strong permanent magnets. The discussion also does not clarify the effectiveness or suitability of the suggested sources.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in purchasing electromagnets for heavy lifting applications, as well as those exploring the differences between electromagnets and permanent magnets.

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Years ago my father had an electromagnet he used for children's science demos. It was powered by a little 9 volt battery. He would attach a rope to the magnet and another to a steel plate. He would then have the kids try to pull the magnet apart via tug-of-war. He also brought out his magnet at a dinner party with adults once; even with 5 grown men pulling each side, the magnet could not be separated from the plate.

Although its for a different purpose, I am looking for electromagnet which can lift in excess of 200kg (441 lbs) or so. However, almost all of the magnets I can find are permanent magnets; for instance, one can easily find strong neodymium magnets for sale. However, I do not want a permanent magnet. I suppose is okay if the electromagnet is a permanent one, as long as its fairly weak when unpowered, but I don't want a strong permanent magnet.

Any ideas where I could buy such a thing?
 
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ScurvySam234234 said:
Years ago my father had an electromagnet he used for children's science demos. It was powered by a little 9 volt battery. He would attach a rope to the magnet and another to a steel plate. He would then have the kids try to pull the magnet apart via tug-of-war. He also brought out his magnet at a dinner party with adults once; even with 5 grown men pulling each side, the magnet could not be separated from the plate.

Although its for a different purpose, I am looking for electromagnet which can lift in excess of 200kg (441 lbs) or so. However, almost all of the magnets I can find are permanent magnets; for instance, one can easily find strong neodymium magnets for sale. However, I do not want a permanent magnet. I suppose is okay if the electromagnet is a permanent one, as long as its fairly weak when unpowered, but I don't want a strong permanent magnet.

Any ideas where I could buy such a thing?
Welcome to the PF.

What size electromagnets did you find in your searching so far? And detachable permanent magnets (with internal mechanisms to facilitate the detachment) do exist...

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ScurvySam234234 said:
However, almost all of the magnets I can find are permanent magnets; for instance, one can easily find strong neodymium magnets for sale.
Did you type "electromagnet" into Amazon's search feature? I see several that meet your description, mostly related to door locks.
 
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McMaster-Carr (www.mcmaster.com) is one of the best sources for all sorts of neat things if you live in the US. They have two pages of electromagnets, the strongest of which will lift 5,000 lbs.
 
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