Where Does Energy Go When You Push a Moving Truck?

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The discussion centers on the concept of work and energy in the context of pushing a moving truck. When a person pushes the back of a truck moving at a constant velocity, they exert a force (F) but do not perform work in the truck's reference frame, as there is no displacement (x) relative to the truck. However, from an inertial frame like the Earth, the work done is calculated as -Fx. Despite not doing mechanical work, the individual feels fatigued due to energy expenditure in muscle contractions, which generate heat energy, highlighting the inefficiency of the human body in maintaining static forces.

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I am still confused about this.
say, we are in a constant moving truck, we pushed the back of the truck, so we provide the force F on the walls of the truck, towards the rear. but the truck moving with constant velocity and has traveled a distance of say x. we do the work according to an inertial frame (the earth) is =-Fx, but what if we use our truck frame, according to the truck, we do not do work, but why do we become tired if you continue doing that work, where energy is lost?
 
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The energy depends on your reference frame. So from the truck point of view you don't do any work unless you open the door or deform the metal ( W=F*x - no x no work done ). And you feel tired because you produce heat energy by the way the muscles work (they are contracted by electric pulses, so they contract and relax many times in a second).
If you hold a a book on some constant height you will get tired without doing any work, and a table can do it for a long time.
 
einstor said:
say, we are in a constant moving truck, we pushed the back of the truck, so we provide the force F on the walls of the truck, towards the rear. but the truck moving with constant velocity and has traveled a distance of say x. we do the work according to an inertial frame (the earth) is =-Fx,
That internal force has no effect on the motion of the truck. What's relevant isn't the truck's motion with respect to the ground, but your motion with respect to the truck (none).
but what if we use our truck frame, according to the truck, we do not do work, but why do we become tired if you continue doing that work, where energy is lost?
Your body is inefficient. It requires and energy input just to generate a static force.
 

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