Where Should I Begin with Parabolas?

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The discussion centers around understanding parabolas, specifically focusing on the properties of quadratic functions, including the axis of symmetry and minimum values. Participants explore the implications of given parameters and points on the quadratic function.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the formula for the axis of symmetry of a quadratic function and applies it to a specific function, leading to the calculation of the minimum value.
  • Another participant proposes a system of equations derived from given points on the parabola and questions whether a unique solution can be obtained.
  • Several participants arrive at the same values for parameters a and b, suggesting a potential minimum value of the function.
  • There is a confirmation of the minimum value calculated as -1/5, with participants discussing the implications of substituting values back into the function.

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Participants appear to agree on the values of a and b as well as the minimum value of the function, but the discussion on the uniqueness of the solution to the system of equations remains open.

Contextual Notes

The discussion relies on specific values and conditions for a and b, and the implications of these values on the uniqueness of the solution are not fully resolved.

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We know the axis of symmetry for the general quadratic:

$$f(x)=ax^2+bx+c$$

is the line:

$$x=-\frac{b}{2a}$$

And so for the given function:

$$y(x)=5x^2+ax+b$$

The axis of symmetry is:

$$x=-\frac{a}{10}$$

And so the minimum value of $y$ will be:

$$y_{\min}=y\left(-\frac{a}{10}\right)=5\left(-\frac{a}{10}\right)^2+a\left(-\frac{a}{10}\right)+b=\frac{20b-a^2}{20}$$

Now, we are given two points on the parabola, and using this data, we obtain:

$$5a^2+a(a)+b=b$$

$$5b^2+ab+b=a$$

Bearing in mind that $a\ne b$, can you obtain a unique solution to the above system?
 
a is 0, b is -1/5
 
Ilikebugs said:
a is 0, b is -1/5

Yes, that's what I got too. (Yes)

So then, what is $y_{\min}$?
 
-1/5?
 
Ilikebugs said:
-1/5?

That's correct.

Alternatively, we have

$$b=5(a)^2+a(a)+b\implies a=0$$

Substituting $-\frac{a}{10}=0$ for $x$ into $y=5x^2+ax+b$ gives $y=-\frac15$ as our minimum.
 

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