Where to start learning mathematics for physics?

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for learning mathematics to enhance understanding of physics. Participants share resources, suggest textbooks, and discuss the importance of foundational mathematical skills in relation to physics concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to learn mathematics to better understand physics and seeks recommendations for textbooks and resources that relate math to real-world scenarios.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for a good intuition of the mathematical concepts underlying physics and suggests starting with books by Mary L. Boas and Kevin Cahill.
  • A participant provides specific titles of recommended books: "Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences" by Mary L. Boas and "Physical Mathematics" by Kevin Cahill.
  • One suggestion includes exploring free physics textbooks available online and trying different books to find the best fit for understanding various topics.
  • A participant advises assessing one's current mathematical knowledge, suggesting the use of the ALEKS online learning system to complete a precalculus course as a preparatory step for studying physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of a solid mathematical foundation for understanding physics. However, there are varying opinions on the best starting point and resources, indicating multiple competing views on how to approach learning mathematics for physics.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the need for an accurate assessment of mathematical skills, suggesting that prior knowledge may vary significantly based on individual experiences in high school. The discussion does not resolve which specific resources or methods are universally best.

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Homework Statement:: I'm looking to start learning mathematics to help me understand physics better.
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Hi all. For the longest time I've been talking about learning (or possibly even studying) mathematics to help me better understand physics. My biggest problem is, I'm not entirely sure where to start. I studied physics to a high school equivalent level but I would be quite rusty, so I'm thinking somewhere there would be the best place to start. With the Covid-19 when better to start?

Would anyone be able to recommend a textbook and some accompanying resources? I sometimes struggle with mathematics if it is too abstract, so if there are any textbooks which relate the mathematics to real world scenarios, I find that helps me understand things more and remain motivated.
 
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Hi,

Yes you are right.For deeply understanding physics you need also good intuition of the mathematical machinery which lies behind it.
Maybe you can start with the books of Boa,Cahill or something else which is analogous to this Präsentation.The chronological manner how these books are structured could be a model for your approach.
 
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troglodyte said:
Hi,

Yes you are right.For deeply understanding physics you need also good intuition of the mathematical machinery which lies behind it.
Maybe you can start with the books of Boa,Cahill or something else which is analogous to this Präsentation.The chronological manner how these books are structured could be a model for your approach.
thank you troglodyte! what are the names of the books by Boa and Cahill?
 
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Deciding where to start depends on where you are now, and you need an accurate assessment of that which is rare based on high school classes and grades. An ACT Math score provides a better assessment, and better yet, use the ALEKS online learning system and complete the precalculus course there.

When you complete 95+% of the ALEKS precalculus "pie" you are ready to begin algebra-based college physics and not far from calc-based college physics.

But don't let a passing grade in a Calculus class fool you into thinking you know enough precalculus to succeed in physics.
 
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Dr. Courtney said:
Deciding where to start depends on where you are now, and you need an accurate assessment of that which is rare based on high school classes and grades. An ACT Math score provides a better assessment, and better yet, use the ALEKS online learning system and complete the precalculus course there.

When you complete 95+% of the ALEKS precalculus "pie" you are ready to begin algebra-based college physics and not far from calc-based college physics.

But don't let a passing grade in a Calculus class fool you into thinking you know enough precalculus to succeed in physics.
Thank you Dr.Courtney. I think this sounds more like where I'm at. From what little I know, it sounds like I need to start with pre-caculus at least, if not prior to that (if that makes sense). I'll check out that ALEKS system.
 

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