Which alternative fuels do you support?

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The forum discussion centers on the viability of various alternative fuels, with a strong emphasis on fission as a primary energy source. Participants argue that fission, alongside solar energy, is superior due to its global applicability and efficiency. Concerns about nuclear proliferation and public acceptance are raised, but many believe that advancements in technology, such as pebble-bed reactors, could mitigate these issues. The conversation highlights a consensus on the need for a diverse energy portfolio, including wind, solar, and biofuels, to reduce reliance on any single fuel source.

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  • Understanding of fission and its role in energy production
  • Knowledge of solar energy technologies and their efficiency challenges
  • Familiarity with alternative fuel sources, including biofuels and biomass
  • Awareness of nuclear proliferation concerns and regulatory frameworks
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  • Research pebble-bed reactor technology and its safety advantages
  • Explore advancements in solar energy efficiency and decentralized systems
  • Investigate the environmental impact of biomass burning and biofuels
  • Examine global nuclear energy policies and their implications for proliferation
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Energy policy makers, environmental scientists, and anyone interested in the future of sustainable energy solutions will benefit from this discussion.

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There's solar, wind, fusion, fission, plant oil biofuels, biomass burning, hydroelectricity, tide & wave power, and more. There is much talk of fuels alternative to the old fossil fuels, which do you think are superior?
 
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I have to support fission since it is the only one(other than solar, which needs to become more efficient for people to accept) that can be used for power anywhere on the globe.(Since fusion can't be used for power anywhere on Earth, at least not yet.)
 
Solar seems to be taking off & it's decentralized
 
Aye, I would have to go with fission as well.
 
Fission, solar, fusion.
 
cookies...
 
They all sound good to me. Solar, Wind and Wave are great for some places that can accommodate them, and for everywhere else there's fission (and Fusion!?)
 
I have a woodlot full of trees and an efficient wood stove. I am burning carbon that is currently in-cycle and that has not been sequestered for hundreds of millions of years.
 
  • #10
It's a no brainer - biodiesel is the solution.
 
  • #11
russ_watters said:
Fission.

kghjfhjh

Fission for everyone? You rightfully deleted the thread from the meltdown crank last week, but what about proliferation?
 
  • #12
Fission, fission, and more fission.
 
  • #13
Fission: Terrorism; proliferation of nuclear materials; too much regulation needed to build the plants in time; the public and will never allow it.

Never going to happen to a significant degree.
 
  • #14
Gasoline and dirty coal.
 
  • #15
I've always thought the best solution is a little of everything. Dependance on a single fuel can turn ugly, and they all have their up sides and downsides anyway.
 
  • #16
cyrusabdollahi said:
Gasoline and dirty coal.

:smile::smile:
 
  • #17
Ivan Seeking said:
Never going to happen to a significant degree.
Doesn't France get 80% of it's electricity from nuclear and export more of it?

Ivan Seeking said:
Fission: Terrorism
What did you say again when we had the following conversation?:
Mk said:
We should eventually convert to nuclear as the main energy source in the United States.
Ivan Seeking said:
The terrorists would love that
Mk said:
Oh, I suppose then that we should stop building skyscrapers too because they're such a good target.
 
  • #18
I've never been too scared of a nuclear war. it's a measure too grandiose and is sure to alienate and harm the attacker; I doubt a country would want to engage in nuclear war unless they have a suicide wish.

now bio-weapons... those scare the **** out of me.
 
  • #19
moe darklight said:
now bio-weapons... those scare the **** out of me.

Have they ever been used?
 
  • #20
A mixture of different energy sources would be the best solution. So as not to rely on only one thing.
 
  • #21
Mk said:
Have they ever been used?

yea, I know... but it's the silence of a bio-weapon that scares me. A virus can spread fast, not show any symptoms for weeks, and be next to impossible to trace to know who the attacker was.
 
  • #22
moe darklight said:
yea, I know... but it's the silence of a bio-weapon that scares me. A virus can spread fast, not show any symptoms for weeks, and be next to impossible to trace to know who the attacker was.
Well, I wasn't being offensive, I was just asking if they were really.

Bio is the scariest I think too :eek:
 
  • #23
Mk said:
Doesn't France get 80% of it's electricity from nuclear and export more of it?

What percent of their total energy usage comes from nuclear, including petro energy?
QED

What did you say again when we had the following conversation?:

So you don't see a difference between buildings and dirty bombs? Buildings are a target - you know, like nuclear reactors are a target - and not weapons.
 
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  • #24
There are some viable alternatives, but I wish the world would focus on a few, rather than a huge amount.

Fusion, hydrogen cells combined with wind and solar power for the rich nations.
 
  • #25
The Uk could be powered by wave power and bio fuel.
 
  • #26
Mk said:
Doesn't France get 80% of it's electricity from nuclear and export more of it?
Ivan Seeking said:
What percent of their total energy usage comes from nuclear, including petro energy?
QED
70-something.

As for terrorists, come on.
 
  • #27
To defend Ivan, nuclear would not be so much a problem in this country. The problem is access to nuclear material in outside countries where the controls and transport are not as secure as over here.

The countries that need alternative fuel are mostly 3rd world countries because they are big polluters. Are you going to give them nuclear power plants? Umm, probably not.

Look at China, big time polluters. Would I want them using nuclear power? They can't even make safe consumer products, now there going to be safe with nuclear material? Yeah, right.
 
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  • #28
cyrusabdollahi said:
The countries that need alternative fuel are mostly 3rd world countries because they are big polluters.
A lot of times people that are struggling to live don't have time to be nice to the environment, that's just how it goes.
Look at China, big time polluters. Would I want them using nuclear power?
What do you think about pebble-bed?
 
  • #29
moe darklight said:
yea, I know... but it's the silence of a bio-weapon that scares me. A virus can spread fast, not show any symptoms for weeks, and be next to impossible to trace to know who the attacker was.

like resident evil:confused::confused:
 
  • #30
Mk said:
A lot of times people that are struggling to live don't have time to be nice to the environment, that's just how it goes.

<shrug, that's tough for them.>


What do you think about pebble-bed?

I don't know what a pebble-bed is.
 

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