Which Book Best Explains Relativity for University Students?

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for books that effectively explain the concept of relativity to university students. Participants share their experiences with various texts and express their needs for a deeper understanding of relativity beyond just its effects.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for a book that explains the underlying principles of relativity, rather than just its implications, after reading "Brief History of Time."
  • Another participant recommends "Gravity: An Introduction to Einstein's General Relativity" by James Hartle, suggesting it may be suitable for those with a background in multivariable calculus.
  • Several participants mention "Demystifying Relativity," with mixed opinions; one finds it lacking depth, while another is exploring it but needs to learn additional mathematical concepts first.
  • There are recommendations for "Spacetime Physics," with emphasis on the first edition being preferable due to its inclusion of solutions and specific pedagogical choices made in the second edition.
  • Rindler's books are noted for their advanced treatment of 4-vectors, though one participant cautions that they may not be suitable for general recommendations due to their eccentric approach.
  • Concerns are raised about errors in "Relativity Demystified," with one participant noting a mistake regarding current and charge density, leading to a decision to return the book.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the effectiveness of specific books, with no consensus on a single recommended text. Some participants agree on the value of Hartle's book, while others critique "Demystifying Relativity" and discuss the merits of different editions of "Spacetime Physics."

Contextual Notes

Participants' recommendations depend on their individual experiences and backgrounds, including varying levels of mathematical preparation. There are unresolved discussions regarding the appropriateness of certain texts for different learning needs.

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Hello, I am a low level university student, and ever since my Electromagnetism class where we derived the wave equations and my professor gave us a brief sample on what implications they had on the way things are in the world, I've been trying to get a true understanding of the topic of relativity. I have picked up "Brief History of Time" and it was great, it showed the effects of everything but did not do such a good job in my opinion in explaining why. Now I know this might be a case of my brain needing that one special example to get it to click or it might need a complicated derivation of some kind. What I would like help on is finding a book that can give me an understanding of the topic, not just be able to predict its effects.

edit: i have done some looking on the internet, but I find that I cannot read extensive things off a computer screen, however printing something out to read would be a possibility.
 
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I went out earlier and got "Demystifying relativity" from a B&N, and I am having to detour and learn the operators used, since the physics classes I took only used the integral form of maxwell's equations. Thanks for the suggestions, I think I might have to check out the Schutz, since I'm considering a physics minor or major at A&M.
 
Texag said:
I went out earlier and got "Demystifying relativity" from a B&N, and I am having to detour and learn the operators used, since the physics classes I took only used the integral form of maxwell's equations. Thanks for the suggestions, I think I might have to check out the Schutz, since I'm considering a physics minor or major at A&M.

If you mean Relativity Demystified by David McMahon and Paul M. Alsing, I think that's a rather shallow book, more like a set of notes. I second the recommendation of Hartle for GR, though for SR I still think working through the problems in the first red paperback edition of Spacetime Physics is the best way to get a solid grounding. Rindler's books are also very good and go further with 4-vectors, though his coverage of GR is probably too eccentric for a general recommendation. Then if you want a little more of the math of SR after that, read the 2 SR chapters in Jackson.
 
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If you mean Relativity Demystified by David McMahon and Paul M. Alsing, I think that's a rather shallow book, more like a set of notes. I second the recommendation of Hartle for GR, though for SR I still think working through the problems in the first red paperback edition of Spacetime Physics is the best way to get a solid grounding. Rindler's books are also very good and go further with 4-vectors, though his coverage of GR is probably too eccentric for a general recommendation. Then if you want a little more of the math of SR after that, read the 2 SR chapters in Jackson.

Yes, its the one by McMahon. I read through the first chapter, and after I noticed a few mistakes (he switched current density and charge density at one point) I am deciding to try to return the book, also It only had a small review on SR, which I have yet to grasp. I will be returning to the store today with your recommendation in mind to see what I can find. Thanks.
 
Texag said:
Yes, its the one by McMahon. I read through the first chapter, and after I noticed a few mistakes (he switched current density and charge density at one point) I am deciding to try to return the book, also It only had a small review on SR, which I have yet to grasp. I will be returning to the store today with your recommendation in mind to see what I can find. Thanks.

Note that the red (or maroon as Robphy sees it) paperback 1st edition of Spacetime Physics is preferable to the second edition. It includes all the solutions for one thing, and the second edition dropped the use of rapidity for some supposed pedagogical reason.
 

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