Which books are good for Lagrangian/Hamiltonian formulations for continuum?

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This discussion focuses on recommended literature for understanding Lagrangian and Hamiltonian formulations in continuum mechanics. Key suggestions include "Classical Mechanics" by John R. Taylor, "Lectures on Theoretical Physics, vol. 2" by A. Sommerfeld, and "Classical Field Theory" by Soper for relativistic cases. Additional resources mentioned are "A Student's Guide to Lagrangian and Hamiltonians" by Hamill, "Lagrangian & Hamiltonian Dynamics" by Mann, and "Theoretical Mechanics of Particles and Continua" by Fetter and Walecka. The conversation highlights the need for more comprehensive texts that delve deeper into these formulations.

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Can anybody suggest which books are good for Lagrangian/Hamiltonian formulations for continuum beyond The Classical Mechanics by Goldstein ( it seems a bit too complicated for my understanding.)?
 
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check out classical mechanics by John R Taylor, i have heard its a very good book.
 
Hamiltonian299792458 said:
check out classical mechanics by John R Taylor, i have heard its a very good book.
Thanks for your suggestion. I browsed Chapter 16 roughly, but it seems to have no relation to Lagrangian/Hamiltonian formulation.
 
There are only a few books, where the Lagrangian formalism is used in continuum mechanics, I'm aware of. Of course, my all-time favorite for classical physics, A. Sommerfeld, Lectures on Theoretical Physics, vol. 2 has a section on it for both incompressible and compressible ideal fluids.

For the relativistic case, you find it in a very elegant way in Soper, Classical Field Theory.
 
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vanhees71 said:
There are only a few books, where the Lagrangian formalism is used in continuum mechanics, I'm aware of. Of course, my all-time favorite for classical physics, A. Sommerfeld, Lectures on Theoretical Physics, vol. 2 has a section on it for both incompressible and compressible ideal fluids.

For the relativistic case, you find it in a very elegant way in Soper, Classical Field Theory.
I think these two books are too hard for me to follow. Any other suggestions?
I found Scheck's Mechanics chapter 7 is a good introduction. Any other books alike?
 
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robphy said:
Marsden & Hughes might be useful
https://authors.library.caltech.edu/25074/1/Mathematical_Foundations_of_Elasticity.pdf

The website of Darryl Holm may also be interesting:
http://wwwf.imperial.ac.uk/~dholm/classnotes/
I found below:
Hamill : A Student's Guide to Lagrangian and Hamiltonians.
Mann,Peter: Lagrangian & Hamiltonian dynamics
Fetter,Walecka: Theoretical Mechanics of particles and continua
Florian Scheck: Mechanics, From Newton's Laws to Deterministic Chaos
But all these books use one chapter/section(about 20 pages) to illustrate. I felt it not enough yet.
Besides, Florian Scheck's Classical Field Theory may be of help.
Any other books talking about it in detail?
 
thaiqi said:
I found below:
Hamill : A Student's Guide to Lagrangian and Hamiltonians.
Mann,Peter: Lagrangian & Hamiltonian dynamics
Fetter,Walecka: Theoretical Mechanics of particles and continua
Florian Scheck: Mechanics, From Newton's Laws to Deterministic Chaos
But all these books use one chapter/section(about 20 pages) to illustrate. I felt it not enough yet.
Besides, Florian Scheck's Classical Field Theory may be of help.
Any other books talking about it in detail?

I guess books on classical field theory may talk about it. Any such books on classical field theory?
 
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jasonRF said:
A very detailed 2-volume monograph has been written by Berdichevsky. I have only flipped through it very briefly - it is certainly a graduate level text
https://www.amazon.com/Variational-Principles-Continuum-Mechanics-Fundamentals/dp/3540884661
https://www.amazon.com/Variational-Principles-Continuum-Mechanics-Applications/dp/3540884688

I haven't looked at Goldstein's treatment, but I suspect Berdichevsky isn't any easier.

jason
Thanks.
I think these two books may be of help:
Auria & Trigiante: From Special Relativity to Feynman Diagrams
Susskind: Special Relativity and Classical Field Theory: The Theoretical Minimum
 
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