Which Enemy of the Christian Faith Are You?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a quiz that categorizes participants into various roles related to their views on Christianity, such as "Atheist," "Philosopher/Scientist," "Nothing," and others. Participants share their results, reactions to the quiz, and engage in lighthearted banter about the implications of their assigned categories.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Many participants identify as "Atheist," with some expressing surprise at their results.
  • Some participants report being categorized as "Philosopher/Scientist," with varying opinions on what that means.
  • A few participants identify as "Nothing," discussing the implications of this label humorously.
  • There are comments on the quiz's structure, with participants noting missing options and expressing frustration over their results.
  • Some participants share their thoughts on atheism and Christianity, with a few arguing that atheism is shallow while others defend their beliefs.
  • Several participants engage in playful commentary about the quiz and its outcomes, including discovering additional categories like "Catholic Priest" and "Creationist."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the implications of the quiz results, as participants express a range of identities and opinions. Some participants agree on the humor of the quiz, while others engage in deeper discussions about belief systems and their meanings.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying degrees of satisfaction with the quiz, noting that their results may not accurately reflect their beliefs. Some mention the quiz's limitations in providing meaningful options.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring themes of belief, identity, and the interplay between humor and serious topics in religious discourse.

  • #31
Math Is Hard said:
:biggrin: I agree!

If I read the javascript correctly, it goes like this:
mostly 1 responses = philoscience
mostly 2 responses = heretic
mostly 3 responses = creationist
mostly 4 responses = atheist
mostly 5 responses = priest
mostly 6 responses = christian
mostly 7 responses = nothing

I think it probably just takes an average, but I didn't look at it too hard.
Those wouldn't correspond to my selections. When I got philo/science I chose heavily on the 4's and above.
 
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  • #32
Evo said:
Those wouldn't correspond to my selections. When I got philo/science I chose heavily on the 4's and above.

Yes, atheist + priest + nothing = philoscience ! :biggrin:
 
  • #33
You're right, Evo, on closer inspection it looks like the choices correspond to different category variables to be incremented.

These appear to be the atheist choices:

1. 6
2. 2
3. 4
4. 1
5. 5
6. 2
7. 4
8. 6
9. 4
10. 4
 
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  • #34
I'm a Christian. Weird because I though I put down some Aethist-like answers. Oh well, guess I'm the only one here who likes to be Sabbathin' it up!
 
  • #35
Atheist.

Wrong!
 
  • #36
Dissident Dan said:
Atheist...that "Nothing" blurb is pretty funny, btw.

Nothing was what i got, perhaps that's the best considering I am the philosophy mentor :-p
 
  • #37
The first time I got atheist also, which isn't really correct. :cry: By making two changes on questions where my answers were a toss up I got philosopher/scientist, much better... :-p
 
  • #38
Okay I did it again and now it says I'm Moses.

Okay not really. It doesn't seem to allow for belief in a God that doesn't micro-manage the universe; or for beliefs that come without a rationalization to support that belief. I think this is why I came up atheist. The author doesn't seem to understand the concepts of faith or moderate beliefs.
 
  • #39
notal33t said:
Please understand that "believers" are not a priori morons, just people that look beyond what is called "the real world".

And what would that be?

I'm an atheïst. Big surprise :biggrin:
 
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  • #40
I vote for God. Somebody has to moderate the cosmological forum page [not to mention collapse the waveform so we can observe all that can be observed]. Beside's, quantum physics insists there must be fluctuations in the cosmic morality fabric.
 
  • #41
Man this thread is a bit unfair on Christians.

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
  • #42
I seem to be the only Heretic so far. I find myself in some excellent historical company however, many famous scientists, artists, writers, etc. were labeled heretics.
 
  • #43
The Bob said:
Man this thread is a bit unfair on Christians.

The Bob (2004 ©)

yes, it does appear that way, however do remember science will not recognize any faith as valid due to the pure definition of science itself, and you are participating in a science forum. :smile: i imagine if some of these who label themselves as atheists were to visit any kind of religious forum, the possibility of them receiving a negative shower of words in regards to natural evolution would be high too. althought these little surveys are fun, i always think it's best to not assign a label to yourself as an individual, because afterall, an individual isn't one when they follow another's way :smile:
 
  • #44
Kerrie said:
yes, it does appear that way, however do remember science will not recognize any faith as valid due to the pure definition of science itself, and you are participating in a science forum. :smile: i imagine if some of these who label themselves as atheists were to visit any kind of religious forum, the possibility of them receiving a negative shower of words in regards to natural evolution would be high too. althought these little surveys are fun, i always think it's best to not assign a label to yourself as an individual, because afterall, an individual isn't one when they follow another's way :smile:

Nice Point. We should all learn to get along. :biggrin:

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
  • #45
We have to remember this is all just for fun. It's a game, not to be taken seriously. Clearly there are Christians here getting labeled as atheists by that game. To try to lump everyone into 7 categories isn't something to be serious about. As has been pointed out, it doesn't take into account all the flavors of Christianity, so if you aren't of the Bible-thumping, proselytizing variety, you're probably going to wind up being a nothing or atheist or something like that on this quiz.
 
  • #46
The proper result for me would be: Born-Again-Catholic-Billy Jack-Mormon with tendencies towards Buddhism, but I didn't see that one come up.
 
  • #47
Ivan Seeking said:
The proper result for me would be: Born-Again-Catholic-Billy Jack-Mormon with tendencies towards Buddhism, but I didn't see that one come up.
Um, how do you parse that? Is it:

Born-Again / Catholic / Billy Jack / Mormon
(and if so what's a "Billy Jack"?)

or maybe:

Born-Again-Catholic-Billy / Jack-Mormon
(in which case what's a Catholic-Billy? a Jack-Mormon?)

or ?

:confused:
 
  • #48
notal33t said:
Please understand that "believers" are not a priori morons, just people that look beyond what is called "the real world".

Us Philosophers and Scientists do the same thing. I don't think who ever made that little voting site was Christian. Christianity teaches to treat those around you with the same respect and friendship you yourself would want from others. There are no enemies in christianity.

Why do you think the United States, founded by our Four Fathers based the laws of the United States on the Ten Commandments? As a result we live in a country where people have freedom of speech and our free to practice there religion whether it be Islamic, Judaism, christian, and other religions.

There are symmetries between Christianity and Science. I forget the Philosopher's name, but he stated that in order for a large group of people to live together, you must establish a system to keep order within that large group. Christianity teaches the Ten Commandments, which were used by our four fathers to establish a system to keep order in the United States, being populated by a large majority. As a result we now live in a Country that allows a lot of things that which makes this country great. This country has always been the country that would ask if they could help other countries in a crisis. This country itself has acted as a True Christian treating all fellow Countries as brothers and sisters.

However, this country also believes in punishment. We are willing to punish those who attack us. We are an eye for an eye country. Yet this country is forgiving, and allowing for any nation to ask for our help if they need it. And this country has never backed down from another country needing help. Even if that country did not ask for help. We stepped in France and took out the Nazis and gave the French back there country. They didn't ask for our help, but we did it because we had to. This country bases its actions and decisions on what it believes in. Freedom, forgiveness, justice, and morality.

Don't know why I typed that all. Just felt like it.
 
  • #49
plover said:
Um, how do you parse that? Is it:

Born-Again / Catholic / Billy Jack / Mormon
(and if so what's a "Billy Jack"?)

or maybe:

Born-Again-Catholic-Billy / Jack-Mormon
(in which case what's a Catholic-Billy? a Jack-Mormon?)

or ?

:confused:

Well I can't imagine why there is any confusion! :biggrin: Billy Jack refers to my bit of native American heritage and my interest in these beliefs. The Jack Mormon works since I am likely excumuinicated from the LDS by now - considering I haven't attended for twenty years. Since I have been born again and was raised catholic...and am a Jack Catholic at least... In fact it is actually much more complicated than that. I explored a lot of religions while in my early twenties.
 
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  • #50
Oh yes, Billy Jack was the name of a fictional character from a 1970's movie by the same name. The movie sought to popularize the plight of the modern native Americans. It also explored a few of their beliefs...in a Hollywood sort of way.

Have you ever heard the old song "One Tin Soldier" by Coven? It was the theme song for the movie.
 
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  • #51
Ivan Seeking said:
Have you ever heard the old song "One Tin Soldier" by Coven? It was the theme song for the movie.

Go ahead and hate your neighbor,
Go ahead and cheat a friend,
Do it in the name of Heaven,
And be justified in the end...


was that the one? I woke up with that stuck in my head one morning last week.

synchronicity.
 
  • #52
Zoobie

That's not on the list at Tom's link, but it is an obvious extrapolation of a gedanken experiment in Halliday and Resnik.
 
  • #53
Math Is Hard said:
Go ahead and hate your neighbor,
Go ahead and cheat a friend,
Do it in the name of Heaven,
And be justified in the end...


was that the one? I woke up with that stuck in my head one morning last week.

synchronicity.

A golden oldie: I still love that song. I sent it to you in lieu of the fact that we would be having this discussion. :biggrin:
 
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  • #54
I see the light, and it burns!
Where can I buy a T-shirt with that on :)
 
  • #55
I am a Christian, but still I match scientist and philosopher.
 
  • #56
Say, what were we talking about here ... Billy Jack...no, T-shirts...no, no, the basis of the US judicial system and foreign policy ? No...I get it; the obvious extrapolation of a gedanken experiment in Halliday and Resnik ! :biggrin:
 
  • #57
Nothing couldn't - care - less

"one of christianity's worst enemies" {mispelling in original text!}
"utterly untouchable"

Boy, am I going to burn!

Actually, I disagree with one part of the diagnosis. I DO care what people believe and how it affects the way they think and act.

AGB

------

P.S. I thought "atheist" just meant someone has dedicated onesself to the great god Athe (two-syllables) instead of one of the usual divinities. :smile:
 
  • #58
Ivan Seeking said:
Well I can't imagine why there is any confusion! :biggrin: Billy Jack refers to my bit of native American heritage and my interest in these beliefs. The Jack Mormon works since I am likely excumuinicated from the LDS by now - considering I haven't attended for twenty years. Since I have been born again and was raised catholic...and am a Jack Catholic at least... In fact it is actually much more complicated than that. I explored a lot of religions while in my early twenties.
So what you're saying is that one of the test results ought to have been "Been-There-Done-That"? :biggrin:

Are you familiar with the essay "God and I" by http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight http://nielsenhayden.com/, which concerns how she (more or less) forced the LDS to formally excommunicate her?
 
  • #59
zeronem said:
Why do you think the United States, founded by our Four Fathers based the laws of the United States on the Ten Commandments?

Please see my response to this here.

I didn't want to derail this thread with my rant.
 
  • #60
I'm a Christian! wooohooo!
 

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