Which Functions Are Integrable?

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The discussion revolves around the question of which functions are integrable, exploring various conditions and definitions related to integrability. Participants examine the implications of continuity, boundedness, and discontinuities on integrability, as well as seeking a comprehensive understanding of the topic.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a function is integrable if it is continuous on the interval [a,b].
  • Others argue that a function is integrable if it is bounded and has discontinuities on at most a set of measure zero.
  • A participant questions how a function can be integrable if it is not continuous.
  • One example provided illustrates a function that is discontinuous at a single point but remains integrable, suggesting that the discontinuity does not affect the integral's value in terms of area under the curve.
  • There is a request for a more complete explanation of integrability and other situations that may affect it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions for integrability, with some emphasizing continuity while others highlight boundedness and the nature of discontinuities. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the comprehensive criteria for integrability.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of rigorous definitions and the dependence on interpretations of discontinuities and boundedness. Some assumptions about the nature of functions and their integrability are not fully explored.

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what functions are integrable?
 
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if f(x) is continuous on [a,b], then f(x) is integrable of [a,b]
 
please explain completely and other situations
 
mechanical eng said:
please explain completely and other situations

What exactly do you mean? What kind of answer are you looking for?
 
Essentially a function is integrable if it is bounded, and discontinuous on at most a set of measure zero.

I suspect you are really asking: when can the anti-derivative of a function be expressed in terms of sums, products, powers, exponentials, trig functions, and the inverses of such. The conditions are not hard to state, but they are not interesting either.
 
mechanical eng said:
please explain completely and other situations

I think a function is integrable if it be dic-continus on countable point
 
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when a function is not continuos how can it be integrable?
 
Not really treating this rigorously, but the idea is simple. Say f(x) = x at all x except when x=1. Say f(1) = 5.

Then f is discontinuous at the point x=1. But if you interpret the integral as area under the graph, then it is intuitively clear that the integral of f from say, x=0 to x=2, is the same as that of the integral of the identity function from x=0 to x=2. The point at x=1 does not contribute to the area.

So as Crosson said, essentially, a function is integrable if it is bounded, and discontinuous on at most a set of measure zero.
 

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