Which Science Should I Choose for IB Courses?

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The discussion revolves around a high school student contemplating their course selections for the International Baccalaureate (IB) program, specifically regarding the choice between Physics, Chemistry, and Biology at the Higher Level (HL). The student expresses uncertainty about their future career path and the implications of their subject choices, particularly in relation to mathematics and their interests in various scientific fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant emphasizes the importance of taking as much mathematics as possible throughout high school, suggesting that it is crucial for success in any scientific field.
  • Another participant questions the student's understanding of quantum mechanics and the concept of "natural physics," implying a need for deeper knowledge before making a decision.
  • Some participants argue that a solid foundation in mathematics is essential for pursuing physics, biology, or chemistry, regardless of the specific field chosen.
  • A participant suggests that the student should consider taking two out of the three sciences (Chemistry, Biology, Physics) to keep options open.
  • Concerns are raised about the student's tendency to give up when faced with challenging concepts, with advice to seek help and not shy away from difficult topics.
  • A physics teacher notes that Physics HL requires a strong grasp of mathematics and that giving up easily could hinder success in the subject.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the importance of mathematics and the student's course choices, indicating that multiple competing views remain. There is no consensus on the best path forward for the student.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying levels of confidence in mathematics and science among participants, as well as differing opinions on the student's readiness for advanced subjects. There are also unresolved questions regarding the student's specific interests and how they align with potential career paths.

Who May Find This Useful

High school students considering their course selections for the IB program, particularly those interested in science and mathematics, as well as educators advising students on academic pathways.

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Hi everyone! In just about a month, I will be starting my IB courses in junior year high school. I have chosen Math SL, along with Economics Hl, Biology HL and Chemistry HL. However in the past few days I suddenly realized how I also really like physics (especially quantum mechanics and natural physics). I really don't know what to do because now I really can't see my future. If I take Physics HL, I would have to probably also do Math HL and from there make out my future based on physics and maths and probably engineering. This would mean I would need to work heavily especially in math, as I am not heavily involved in math but I appreciate it a lot and I like physics which is correlated in a possible. However I don't know if I should just do Chemistry and Biology instead in HL because I am also fascinated by molecular biology and biochemsitry. Which sciences and maths should I chose and why? Please can I have some help? Last question, whenever I can't understand or grasp a question or concept any subject, I always get stressed and just give up what can I do? (Going to a university in Europe - So I need to choose a field)
 
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Let's see if I've got this straight --- you will be starting your junior year in high school, are contemplating a "load," and don't even know what you want do?
Flare12 said:
Last question, whenever I can't understand or grasp a question or concept any subject, I always get stressed and just give up what can I do?
"IB" means much less once you've fumbled it.
 
Bystander said:
Let's see if I've got this straight --- you will be starting your junior year in high school, are contemplating a "load," and don't even know what you want do?
"IB" means much less once you've fumbled it.
Bystander said:
Let's see if I've got this straight --- you will be starting your junior year in high school, are contemplating a "load," and don't even know what you want do?
"IB" means much less once you've fumbled it.
I enjoy the subjects but I really don't know which combination. Hopefully if I find the right ones the load won't be as much in terms that I will enjoy it.
 
As MUCH Mathematics as you possibly can do, for ALL YEARS OF HIGH SCHOOL. Do whatever other science course you can do, but the Mathematics will be the most important. You can figure out which way to go while in college. Physics and Mathematics are neat. Biology is messy but some people like it or can deal with them better. Chemistry is still a little messy and is clearer in its use of Mathematics (clearer than for Biology). If after a few semesters of science course, you feel you like to bite into things using algebra and equations, then your choices will more likely be the physical sciences.
 
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symbolipoint said:
As MUCH Mathematics as you possibly can do, for ALL YEARS OF HIGH SCHOOL. Do whatever other science course you can do, but the Mathematics will be the most important. You can figure out which way to go while in college. Physics and Mathematics are neat. Biology is messy but some people like it or can deal with them better. Chemistry is still a little messy and is clearer in its use of Mathematics (clearer than for Biology). If after a few semesters of science course, you feel you like to bite into things using algebra and equations, then your choices will more likely be the physical sciences.
Thanks for the advice, but I am going to a university which means I will need to choose a subject to study and focus on it. The IB HL Sciences and Math are crucial for that .
 
Flare12 said:
Thanks for the advice, but I am going to a university which means I will need to choose a subject to study and focus on it. The IB HL Sciences and Math are crucial for that .
Choose your major field to begin the university, but change choice of major field as you go, as you find out more about yourself and career possibilities.
 
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However in the past few days I suddenly realized how I also really like physics (especially quantum mechanics and natural physics).

You're basing this off what exactly? I can basically assure you that you know nothing about quantum mechanics, and I don't even know what natural physics is. Physics, be definition, is all "natural."
I really don't know what to do because now I really can't see my future. If I take Physics HL, I would have to probably also do Math HL and from there make out my future based on physics and maths and probably engineering. This would mean I would need to work heavily especially in math, as I am not heavily involved in math but I appreciate it a lot and I like physics which is correlated in a possible. However I don't know if I should just do Chemistry and Biology instead in HL because I am also fascinated by molecular biology and biochemsitry. Which sciences and maths should I chose and why? Please can I have some help?

If you want to do anything in the sciences, be it physics, biology, chemistry, or one of the applied fields like engineering, you're going to need a certain level of mathematical sophistication. So I don't see how mathematics could not be a choice, regardless of the other choice. As far as the other choice, why will you not be able to at least do two out of three choices?
Last question, whenever I can't understand or grasp a question or concept any subject, I always get stressed and just give up what can I do? (Going to a university in Europe - So I need to choose a field)

Short answer, stop doing that.

Long answer, anything worth learning shouldn't come naturally or trivially. So those things you just give up on are the probably the most important concepts from the class. If you continue to give up, without exerting any real effort, then you aren't going to make it very far in the sciences. You should also make use of things like tutoring, office hours, etc. but don't let these become crutches that provide you spoon fed answers.
 
As a Physics teacher what I found about Physics HL is that the level is quite high and you need to know your Maths well. If you give up easily when faced with a problem then Maths is going to be tough for you. Or maybe you are underestimating your self. At times we do get frustrated if we are not able to crack a question.
 
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