Which statement is more accurate? (Hubble's redshift vs. Hubble's law)

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The discussion centers around the accuracy of two statements regarding Hubble's redshift and Hubble's law in the context of cosmological discoveries and their implications for the Big Bang theory. Participants explore the terminology used in English versus other languages and the historical context of these terms.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the discussion is related to homework, suggesting a light-hearted approach to the question.
  • One participant notes that Hubble's redshift is not a standard term in the field, implying that Hubble's law is preferred.
  • Another participant expresses a preference for the term "Hubble–Lemaître law," attributing the discovery to Georges Lemaître prior to Edwin Hubble.
  • A participant asserts that Hubble's law is more accurate because it defines universal expansion, which is based on observed redshifts of distant galaxies.
  • There is a contention regarding the interpretation of the Big Bang theory, with one participant stating it describes the evolution of the universe rather than its origin.
  • Some participants discuss the distinction between Doppler shift and cosmological redshift, with differing views on their relationship.
  • One participant suggests that the replacement of Hubble's redshift with Hubble's law in translation may not be a cosmological question but rather a translation issue.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the terminology and implications of Hubble's redshift versus Hubble's law, with no consensus reached on which statement is more accurate. The discussion includes multiple competing perspectives on the relationship between redshift and cosmological concepts.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of terms and the historical context of their usage, as well as the implications of the Big Bang theory that remain open to interpretation.

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TL;DR
Hubble's redshift vs. Hubble's law
A. The two great cosmological discoveries of this century, Hubble's redshift and the cosmic microwave background, have made the Big Bang theory the most credible theory of the origin of the universe so far.
B. The two great cosmological discoveries of this century, Hubble's law and the cosmic microwave background, have made the Big Bang theory the most credible theory of the origin of the universe so far.
Which of the above two statement is more accurate?
 
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Is this homework ?

:smile: perhaps flip a coin ?

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BvU said:
Is this homework ?

:smile: perhaps flip a coin ?

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:smile: Actually I am trying to figure out why Hubble's redshift was replaced with Hubble's law when the sentence containing the former was translated from Chinese into English.
 
I see. Most likely there is no specific reason. Who knows, except perhaps the translator.

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Hubble's redshift is not a standard term in the field. Is probably why.
 
louislaolu said:
:smile: Actually I am trying to figure out why Hubble's redshift was replaced with Hubble's law when the sentence containing the former was translated from Chinese into English.
Hubble's law is the standard phrase in English.
 
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I prefer "Hubble–Lemaître law" to "Hubble's law" since Georges Lemaître discovered and published the law 2 years prior to Edwin Hubble.
 
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louislaolu said:
TL;DR Summary: Hubble's redshift vs. Hubble's law

A. The two great cosmological discoveries of this century, Hubble's redshift and the cosmic microwave background, have made the Big Bang theory the most credible theory of the origin of the universe so far.
B. The two great cosmological discoveries of this century, Hubble's law and the cosmic microwave background, have made the Big Bang theory the most credible theory of the origin of the universe so far.
Which of the above two statement is more accurate?
B is more accurate because Hubble's law is used to define universal expansion (the measure of which is the Hubble constant "H sub zero"), and universal expansion is based, in large part, on observed redshifts of distant galaxies.
 
It must be borne in mind that the big bang theory is not a theory of the origin of the universe, but of its evolution. On the other hand, the "Hubble's redshift" is actually the Slipher's redshift.
 
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Shush! Or Doppler will hear you.
 
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Bandersnatch said:
Shush! Or Doppler will hear you.
I don't think so: Doppler shift is produced by the speed of displacement of the emitter with respect to the receiver, while the cosmological shift is produced by the expansion of space.
 
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louislaolu said:
Actually I am trying to figure out why Hubble's redshift was replaced with Hubble's law when the sentence containing the former was translated from Chinese into English.
That's not a question about cosmology, or even about physics in general. It's a question about how the translator was programmed.

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