Which substance can act only as a reducing agent?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on identifying a substance that can act solely as a reducing agent among a list of compounds: I2, BrCl, NaBr, and HIO4. Participants explore the characteristics of these substances in the context of redox reactions, particularly focusing on the behavior of sodium bromide and its interactions with more active metals like potassium.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that halogens, including iodine and bromine, can act as oxidizing agents due to their high electron affinities, leading to their elimination from consideration as substances that can only reduce.
  • Another participant questions the assertion that sodium bromide (NaBr) is the only correct answer, proposing that a more active metal, such as potassium, could be oxidized by an acid, which leads to a discussion about the conditions required for such a reaction.
  • A later reply clarifies that NaBr is a salt and discusses a hypothetical reaction between NaBr and potassium, but acknowledges the need for specific conditions for the reaction to occur.
  • Concerns are raised about the practicality of the reaction between sodium ions and potassium, with one participant arguing that the reaction would not happen easily without special conditions, such as isolation from air and moisture.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about why potassium, being a more active metal, would not be oxidized by sodium ions, questioning the implications of "more active" in this context.
  • Technical details are provided regarding the conditions necessary for the reaction to occur, emphasizing that standard reduction potentials may not apply under the discussed conditions.
  • An example involving gold and its reactivity under specific conditions is presented to illustrate how simplified approaches to reactivity can be misleading.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the reactivity of sodium bromide and potassium, with no consensus reached regarding the conditions under which these substances may react. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives on the nature of reducing agents and the specific reactions involved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific conditions for reactions to occur, the need for isolation from environmental factors, and the applicability of standard reduction potentials in non-standard states.

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Homework Statement



Which substance can act only as a reducing agent?
I2
BrCl
NaBr
HIO4

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The Attempt at a Solution



If a substance oxidizes something, the substance itself becomes reduced (gains electrons.) Halogens have high electron affinities and accept electrons readily, so I eliminated iodine and the bromine-chlorene compound immediately.

The acid can oxidize metals (the metal would undergo a single replacement reaction with the hydrogen ion, producing hydrogen gas,) so I eliminated that one as well.

This leaves sodium bromide, which is the correct answer. However, wouldn't a metal more active than sodium, e.g. potassium, be oxidized by the acid? As far as I can tell, all four substances can act as oxidizing agents...
 
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merovingian12 said:
wouldn't a metal more active than sodium, e.g. potassium, be oxidized by the acid?

I don't see an acid in NaBr. Please try to write a reaction equation to elaborate on what you mean.
 
I'm sorry, that was a typo. I know that NaBr is a salt. What a meant was a reaction like

NaBr + K ---> KBr + Na
 
Technically you are right - in such reaction Na+ would be an oxidizer. But it would need pretty exotic conditions, I am not convinced it is possible at all.
 
Would it really need exotic conditions? If I remember correctly, as one goes down Group 1, the metals become more active. So wouldn't the reaction happen spontaneously, since potassium is higher on the activity series than sodium?
 
I doubt it will react easily if you will just mix both solids, and I can't think of any solvent that would be able to both dissolve salt and survive contact with metallic potassium. Perhaps liquid ammonia.
 
I'm sorry to bring back the thread, but I've been thinking about this and I still don't understand it. as far as I can tell, solid potassium metal should be oxidized by the sodium ion... so what is the problem? Is it that potassium is so reactive that it wouldn't last long enough to react with sodium, i.e. react with something else?

The only information I've been able to find in textbooks and other sources is that potassium is a "more active metal," which suggests that a single replacement reaction should occur - so why is it impossible?
 
merovingian12 said:
solid potassium metal should be oxidized by the sodium ion... so what is the problem?

Two things. First is strictly technical. To see if they react you would need metallic potassium, mixed with NaBr, kept isolated from the air and moisture so that potassium doesn't react with other things, kept in an inert vessel able to survive temperature needed to melt NaBr (747°C), as otherwise reaction would happen only on the surface and would be very slow. That's what I meant by exotic conditions - you can't just mix them in the test glass to see what happens.

Then there is a question whether K and NaBr will really react. Reactivity is based on standard reduction potentials. Table of reduction potentials assumes every substance is in its "standard state" - and lists values based on this assumption. However, standard state means room temperature and more or less 1M solution. Conditions we need (see above paragraph) have nothing to do with the standard state - so we can't simply use the standard potential table to predict the outcome.

Let me give you an example of the counterintuitive chemistry - not directly related to the sodium/potassium thing, but showing how a simplified approach can be misleading. Gold is very inert, and doesn't react with oxygen - everyone knows that. However, gold oxidation with atmospheric oxygen is a part of a popular process used in gold mining. How come?

If you put a piece of gold in the solution of cyanides, atmospheric oxygen will oxidize gold and gold will dissolve (this is a process known as gold cyanidation). That's because complex of gold with cyanides is so stable it shifts the equilibrium of the reaction

4Au + 8NaCN + O2 + 2H2O <-> 4Na[Au(CN)2] + 4NaOH

far to the right.

So you see that simply applying "reactivities" to real chemical processes can be misleading.
 

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