Which Truck Has Greater Momentum If Both Have the Same Kinetic Energy?

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The discussion revolves around a problem comparing the momentum of a small truck and a large truck, both possessing the same kinetic energy. Participants are exploring the relationship between mass, velocity, kinetic energy, and momentum within the context of classical mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to derive expressions for kinetic energy and momentum, questioning how these relate when the kinetic energies are equal. Some are exploring the implications of mass and velocity on momentum, while others are clarifying definitions of the trucks' sizes.

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The discussion is active, with various participants providing insights into the relationships between the variables involved. Some have suggested setting up equations to compare the velocities and momenta, while others are questioning the assumptions about mass and size. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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There is some ambiguity regarding the definition of "larger truck," with participants questioning whether it refers to mass or physical size. Additionally, the problem is framed within the constraints of homework expectations, prompting participants to show their reasoning and attempts.

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A simple question:

A small truck and a large truck have the same kinetic energies. Which truck has the greater momentum? Justify your answer.
 
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Show us an attempt at solving the problem. Start with the equations you know for kinetic energy and momentum as functions of velocity, and relate them through that variable.
 
toittoiger said:
A simple question:

A small truck and a large truck have the same kinetic energies. Which truck has the greater momentum? Justify your answer.
What is the expression for kinetic energies (ie in terms of ms, vs and ml and vl)? What is the expression for momenta of the two trucks? If the energies are equal, what is the ratio of the speeds vs/vl ?. Using that ratio, what is the ratio of their momenta?

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I thought I saw another post just like this...
 
Maybe I didn't. Anyway, set up your problem using the equation for kinetic energy.
Use m1 and m2... and to make things easy, let's say m2 = 1/2 m1.

K.E. = \frac{1}{2}mv^2

Setting the two equation equal to each other...
\frac{1}{2}m_{1}^{2}v_{1}^2 = \frac{1}{2}*\frac{1}{2}m_{1}v_{2}^2

The "m's" cancel and you get the velocities in terms of each other.
 
yes there was a post exactly like this, i think he double posted it for one reason or another,

but i simply said that whenever a mass is increased the momentum is also increased - P=MV

of course i don't understand what they mean by larger truck, is it mass? or simply bigger?

because you can get equal KEs but haveing one of them going slightly faster, and the other with more mass, that when plugged into the momentum equation, the larger one will have more

offtopic said:
how do you do those javascript equations?
 
You mean the math typesetting? That's Latex. This should get you started.
 
toittoiger said:
A simple question:

A small truck and a large truck have the same kinetic energies. Which truck has the greater momentum? Justify your answer.

I assume you mean the larger truck has greater mass.

Let :

Larger truck : mass M, velocity V
Smaller truck : mass m, velocity v

Then,

\frac{1}{2}mv^2 = \frac{1}{2}MV^2

V = v\sqrt{\frac{m}{M}} -- eqn (1)

Momentum of the larger truck is MV, that of the smaller truck is mv.

Now, using eqn (1)

MV = Mv\sqrt{\frac{m}{M}} = v\sqrt{Mm} > v\sqrt{m^2} = mv

Hence the larger truck has the greater momentum.

This doesn't apply in the trivial case when both trucks are at rest.
 

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