Undergrad Which Unit Normal Vector of a Surface is Correct?

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The discussion centers on identifying the correct unit normal vector of a surface, highlighting that both vectors presented are valid but differ in direction. The distinction between "inward" and "outward" normals depends on the context of a closed region, as these terms cannot be defined locally without reference to the entire surface. The sign of the normal vector determines its orientation, which can change based on the choice of tangent vectors or the function defining the surface. A continuous normal vector field that consistently points inward or outward exists only for orientable surfaces, with non-orientable surfaces like the Mobius Strip demonstrating discontinuities. Understanding these concepts is crucial for proper integration over surfaces.
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What is actually the unit normal vector of a surface?
Is it this?
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Or this one?
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I see that those are opposite in direction. But, I want the correct one, which means that it should point outward.
So, which one is correct?
 
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Both are unit normals. The definition of "inward" and "outward" is dependent on an entire closed region whereas both gradient and cross product are local properties. The meaning of "outward" and can not be defined locally without reference to the larger context.
 
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FactChecker said:
Both are unit normals. The definition of "inward" and "outward" is dependent on an entire closed region whereas both gradient and cross product are local properties. The meaning of "outward" and can not be defined locally without reference to the larger context.

Is there an easy way to check it inward/outward?
 
Usually these are used in a context of integration over a surface where both the surface and the integration are defined in such a way that keeps track of outward.
 
terryds said:
Is there an easy way to check it inward/outward?

The expressions you gave only determine ##\hat{n}## up to sign, but sign is what determines whether your normal vector is inward- or outward-pointing. If ##u,v## are two independent tangent vectors at a point on your surface, then swapping them gives a minus sign in your first formula for ##\hat{n}##. Similarly, if your surface is the zero set of a function ##g##, then it is also the zero set of ##-g##. But swapping ##g## with ##-g## gives a minus sign in your second formula.
 
A continuous, strictly inward- or outward- normal ( when given the right context, as FactChecker stated) exists only when the surface is orientable; some actually use its existence as the definition for orientability. Notice, e.g., a normal vector field on the Mobius Strip, and how it must make a discontinuous turn at some point.
 
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