Who is Jacob Barnett and What Makes Him So Special?

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The discussion revolves around Jacob Barnett, a child prodigy in astrophysics, exploring his abilities, background, and the implications of his exceptional intelligence. Participants touch on various aspects of prodigies, including comparisons to historical figures like Einstein, the impact of media attention, and the potential challenges faced by gifted individuals.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight Jacob Barnett's high IQ and advanced studies in astrophysics, comparing him to Einstein and Newton.
  • There are questions regarding the implications of his autism and whether it affects his social skills or is a characteristic of his genius.
  • Concerns are raised about the pressures faced by child prodigies and the potential for burnout due to high expectations.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the media portrayal of prodigies, suggesting that it may not accurately reflect their future success.
  • Discussion includes curiosity about Barnett's understanding of complex concepts, such as light and gravity, and whether he is developing new theories.
  • Participants speculate on the possibility of Barnett shifting interests in the future, including a humorous suggestion about horticulture.
  • There is a mention of the lack of recorded lectures from Einstein, prompting reflections on the nature of genius and communication.
  • Some participants express admiration for Barnett's achievements and the inspiration he provides to others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of admiration and skepticism regarding Jacob Barnett's abilities and the implications of being a prodigy. There is no clear consensus on the impact of media attention or the long-term outcomes for child prodigies.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions touch on the limitations of understanding genius, the role of developmental disorders, and the challenges of being in the public eye, but these points remain unresolved.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring the psychology of gifted individuals, the societal implications of prodigies, and the historical context of genius in science.

  • #91
christopherV said:
dehumanization occurs when an individual views another person in negative ways,

How is describing someone as "Rain Man" - a person people associate with being brilliant at certain things, hence you see someone win a lot at cards and call them Rain Man - "negative"?

How are we describing someone as being "non-human"?

Your whole premise is ridiculous. You are taking a completely benign situation and deliberately trying to inflame it into becoming something it is not, by using examples that don't match with the reality of the situation.
 
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  • #92
Calrid said:
I understand you might find the term offensive, and that's fine, I just don't understand why?

Alright I will answer that, I find the term so offensive because I see it as another representation of "idiot savant" and it is defiantly not a term that I would ever use to represent anything positive about another individual.

and it's not that i might find the term offensive i definitely find the term offensive.
 
  • #93
christopherV said:
Alright I will answer that, I find the term so offensive because I see it as another representation of "idiot savant" and it is defiantly not a term that I would ever use to represent anything positive about another individual.

and it's not that i might find the term offensive i definitely find the term offensive.

Who used the term idiot savant except you?

Was Kim Peek trying to suggest he was an idiot savant by using that term? Or was he trying to suggest he was the real deal?

Great I still don't understand why but you go with that, it seems we are at an impasse.

If its any consolation I'd find the term idiot savant offensive, and would never use it. It's so clearly something that was invented when we didn't know any better. Probably why few people use it now.
 
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  • #94
Look I don't at this point think that you are intentionally trying to be offensive. I think you really just don't get it. it was offensive to me and I don't think i can explain it any further or in any manner in which you will understand what it's like to be me.
 
  • #95
christopherV said:
Look I don't at this point think that you are intentionally trying to be offensive. I think you really just don't get it. it was offensive to me and I don't think i can explain it any further or in any manner in which you will understand what it's like to be me.

Fair enough then I apologise for offending you, it was not my intent.

I don't have to get it to know when someone is upset.
 
  • #96
Calrid said:
Fair enough then I apologise for offending you, it was not my intent.

I don't have to get it to know when someone is upset.

thank you and I am sure that i made some errors as well and for those i apologize, I might not even see them as I am very bad at interpersonal communication and prone to behaviors which fall outside of the social norm. particularly analogies, i could not however think of an analytical way in which to express my thoughts on the matter.
 
  • #97
christopherV said:
thank you and I am sure that i made some errors as well and for those i apologize, I might not even see them as I am very bad at interpersonal communication and prone to behaviors which fall outside of the social norm. particularly analogies, i could not however think of an analytical way in which to express my thoughts on the matter.

I think the only error you made is in being human. Something for which it is hard to apologise for. We all have our sensibilities. It's a waste of time getting hung up on them.

Forget about it. :smile:
 
  • #98
Speaking of Jacob Barnett, he now lives in the same small city where I live. Woohoo! :biggrin:
 

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