Who is the author of Differential Forms book?

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The discussion revolves around identifying the author of a book on differential forms, exploring its suitability for different audiences, and discussing prerequisites for understanding the material. Participants also touch on the historical context of differential forms and the contributions of notable mathematicians.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in starting differential forms and inquires about the book's quality and required background knowledge.
  • Another participant uses a metaphor to suggest that direct engagement with the material is more beneficial than seeking validation.
  • A participant mentions that Elie Cartan founded the subject of differential forms and notes the challenges of his writings, while recommending introductory textbooks, including one by Harley Flanders.
  • Another participant shares their experience of learning differential forms through an article by Harley Flanders and suggests focusing on computation first.
  • There is a question about which Cartan authored the book in question, distinguishing between Elie and Henri Cartan, with a participant clarifying the historical contributions of both mathematicians.
  • Concerns are raised about the reliability of Wikipedia as a source for information on the Cartans and differential forms.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on which specific book is being referenced, as there are multiple authors with the last name Cartan, and opinions vary on the best approach to learning differential forms.

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Some participants express uncertainty regarding the specific book being discussed and the prerequisites necessary for understanding differential forms, indicating that these aspects may depend on individual backgrounds and the specific text in question.

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Hello,

I'm interested in starting differential forms, Is this book any good? What audience is it intended for? What prerequisites (E.G. Linear Algebra, Calculus(At what level), etc.) would one need to fully appreciate the scope and depth of information presented in this book?

Thanks for your time.
 
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thats like asking if the bible is useful for religious study. just read it, and then you will be teaching us.

these questions are like people at the beach marching up and down the sand asking if the water is wet. just get in for christ sake.

and ona more helpful note, if you have difficulties ask us, we will help.
 
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Hi, acm,

I agree with mathwonk--- if you didn't take the point, Cartan founded the subject, but his books are often considered to be challenging to read, so if you can truly master his writings, you will probably find many eager to learn from Cartan via yourself. However, I take it that your ambitions were less lofty. Fortunately, there are many good introductory textbooks on differential forms. One of the most inexpensive is one of the few really valuable Dover books, Differential Forms with Applications to the Physical Sciences, by Harley Flanders. The much more recent (and much more expensive) book by Frankel, The Geometry of Physics, is probably more challenging, but offers more applications of differential forms (this book covers much more than just differential forms).

Chris Hillman
 
in was myself always mystified by diferential forms util i reqd an article by harley flanders which showed how to calculate with them.so i advise: learn to compiute with them, then what They are.

the ARticle i read was i the little ams book on global differential geometry, edited by chern.
 
acm,
what is the first name of the author of your "Differential Forms" book?
Is it (the father) Elie or (the son) Henri?
 
Which Cartan?

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acm,
what is the first name of the author of your "Differential Forms" book?
Is it (the father) Elie or (the son) Henri?

Oops, I assumed he meant the book by Elie Cartan (1869-1951), Les systèmes differentiels extérieurs et leur applications géométriques, but come to think of it, he probably meant Henri Cartan (1904-), Formes différentielles.

For those who don't know, Elie Cartan initiated the subject of differential forms (and many other way cool things); his son Henri was also a great mathematician. Casually interested members can consult http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elie_Cartan and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Cartan, but as always should bear in mind the fact that Wikipedia is inherently unstable, has no effective fact checking mechanisms in place, and that misinformation and misemphasis is rampant in the physics articles, and, increasingly, in the math articles. I have not attempted to read the two articles I just cited, so I have no idea whether they are good or bad at this moment in time.
 
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