Who Will Be the New Pope After White Smoke?

[stoned]

What do you expect? He's stoned.

I did ? sorry about it.
anyway, I'm so afraid of dying can't stop thinking about death.

 

[ricin]

If I was in the conclave I would have written in Father Guido Sarducci. Imagine him as pope...

 

[stoned]

do you guys know that Bush family were in business with Hitler just up to the war, General Motors also and countless other big names not to mention American Banks.
how about this, Arnold Schwarzenneger was more involved with nazis than Ratzinger, and I did not hear much criticizm of Arnold.

 

[Moses]

So God will get us back will he? Not the most caring of things is he?

And even if god exists, i can be sure we can just ignore 'it'. I mean, what kind of God gives tsunamis to its creation?

Well, He got Authority above His creation. I do agree if he want to destruct all His universe, which He made by Himself, no one can stop Him. However, we are lucky that He is Murciful. According to the informations i knew, God created life and death to test us humans who will be doing good deeds, we are not here forever, Life is just an Exam, not the final destination. Being thankful and pateint won't hurt, resist disasters is great, stop curroption is great too.

Chilling out required,

P.S: I guess if God want by one stone to get more than one bird [aka 'punish' some ppl in this life, and 'test' other people how will they react buy to the same event, even they don't 'deserve' this issue by their deeds] is not a bad thing.

 

[1123581321]

I got an idea, how about you give the new pope a go, and if he sucks, then you can complain about him. I didn't even knew who this ratzinger guy was before JPII died, and I'm catholic. Also, he didn't have a choice to be in the nazi millitary or hitler youth, but he did defect from whatever he was in, risking his life. Do not be a sheep and believe whatever CNN or BBC or whatever. Do some thinking, and look for facts from a few different places before coming up with an opinion. Sheep follow whoever is out front, and if the guy outfront jumps off a cliff, they will too, because they follow blindly.

Fibonacci

 

[cronxeh]

i'm catholic.

Sheep follow whoever is out front, and if the guy outfront jumps off a cliff, they will too, because they follow blindly.

Aren't we being a little hypocritical

 

[1123581321]

Aren't we being a little hypocritical

You. my friend (if i assume "i'm catholic" and "don't be a sheep" is what you see as hypocrytical) are putting words in my mouth. First, i used the phrase "i'm catholic" when discribing what i knew about ratzinger, not being a sheep. and i am not being a sheep, if i thought he sucked, i would tell you so, not pretend to like him because he i am catholic. You could call me a hypocryt if i was pretending to like him, just because he was the pope. You are just running out of things to use in defence of your arguement, and are taking cheep shots to make me look like a stupid bum, just like you did in the other thread about the former pope. You, my friend, are stupid and do not really know anything at all, except that you want the church to die, which would happen quicker if there was a left pope. WHat happened after Vatican II? Lots of people left the church because many in the church, especially european catholics, do not like liberalism in the church. They like tradition, not new fads. Liberalism is killing the church, not helping it, and you are one of the following: too foolish to realize that or you know well that that's what would happen and want it to happen.

Fibonacci

 

[cronxeh]

im an Atheist.

 

[BicycleTree]

I think this is a wonderful story:
http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4116

 

[Moses]

Don't forget there are others religions which have less consideration toward women than it has the catholic church.



I hope this time you are not saying this because of me.

and hope not becuase of me too

Well, just a question of curiosity, I guess Catholic Church is not a religion, its an institute run a religion [well, from my side i see Catholisicm as a sect of Christianity, not as a 'separate' religion, and other sects as other religions ...etc] is that true?

I guess Monique point is abuot giving women more rights in the insistute, since if they thing the religion opress them , then another actions shuold be taken. An example in my mind is what i saw while i was in the middle east from some Muslims Imams in the villages who sometimes opress the women, by mistakenyl mixing religion by tradition, while the elite scholars of muslims are totally against it. Women equality with men are so obvuis issue and no need to discuess it. However, equality never means sameness [u know, i can't be pregnant! but its fair i guess that males can never be mothers since we can be fathers ]

An important point to mention though, I DO THINK that some actions in religion are done in a certain way, so it shows loyality to God, e.g. Why Christians go on Sundays, and not Tuesdays to church? And it is just becuase the believe they should do so. One can argue the same, that some religion functional actions should be done by men leading the process [e.g. mass, ceremony...etc] and i don't find any problem with that. Since its not opressing against any Gender.

 

[stoned]

Catholic church does not opress women ! if you want to see opression of women look at other two big religions, judaism and islam.
Oh ! by the way Ratzinger (NAZI) was a concentration camp guard and was a viscious killer, he killed hundreds of innocent babies and ate them OKAY! who told me that ? I been watchin' Fox TV.

 

[1123581321]

im an Atheist.

I would have never guessed...

 

[Bladibla]

Sorry. Need to think more before posting.

 

[revelator]

I got an idea, how about you give the new pope a go, and if he sucks, then you can complain about him.

Amen to that.

I'm agnostic myself. I used to be atheist, but I realized that's not much different from being religious.

 

[Clausius2]

My first complaint is he doesn't know to speak Spanish!

It is incredible that a Pope doesn't know to speak in the language of 400 million of catholics, and the language of the nation who most defended and expanded catholicism in Middle Age. I am astonished.

 

[Moses]

My first complaint is he doesn't know to speak Spanish!

It is incredible that a Pope doesn't know to speak in the language of 400 million of catholics, and the language of the nation who most defended and expanded catholicism in Middle Age. I am astonished.

I do see your point, usually when Popes were from Italy it was 'some how' easy for them to comminicate with the surroundings, being speaking Italian, french and Spanish.

The Caliph in 'the Highest Islamic goverment' aka Caliphate was usually speaking Arabic, even he is not an arab, nor his government [a good example is the Ottomans, who are Turkish] since the regions who spoke arabic are the ones where his most critical tasks are centered in politics [the reason is arab world is at the middle in the Islamic world, as a geographic link and a border region to the north with Europe]. I do agree language factor these days is really crucial, but we are lucky that its easier to handle than in the old times..

 

[Monique]

My first complaint is he doesn't know to speak Spanish!

I am amazed that he knows any other languages besides German.. they hardly speak any english over there.

 

[stoned]

i'm in germany often and almost all young people speak english.

 

[Moses]

Yep, when i was at international speak in UK, the best people who spoke english after british people where : Germans, Dutch, then people coming from African countries.

The worst was ...me...even it could be a rumor i got english blood in my veins, but i grasp the language of the [forgien?] society i grew in ..not a shame though

 

[Clausius2]

I do see your point, usually when Popes were from Italy it was 'some how' easy for them to comminicate with the surroundings, being speaking Italian, french and Spanish.

The Caliph in 'the Highest Islamic goverment' aka Caliphate was usually speaking Arabic, even he is not an arab, nor his government [a good example is the Ottomans, who are Turkish] since the regions who spoke arabic are the ones where his most critical tasks are centered in politics [the reason is arab world is at the middle in the Islamic world, as a geographic link and a border region to the north with Europe]. I do agree language factor these days is really crucial, but we are lucky that its easier to handle than in the old times..

I think he does know how to speak spanish, but HE DOESN'T WANT to speak spanish.

Spanish government of Mr. Zapatero has recently approved in parliament a law which allows the marriage between gays. And the law says the words "gay marriage" has the same institutional, legal and moral meaning than the traditional marriage.

So that just now I am not surprised Pope Ratzinger doesn't want to hear nothing from Spain and Zapatero, who is almost achieving that Spain is the enemy of a half of the world doing such stupidities.

 

[Smurf]

My first complaint is he doesn't know to speak Spanish!

It is incredible that a Pope doesn't know to speak in the language of 400 million of catholics, and the language of the nation who most defended and expanded catholicism in Middle Age. I am astonished.

Nice avoidance that it's also the language that committed more human rights violations in the name of christianity... ever.

 

[Clausius2]

Nice avoidance that it's also the language that committed more human rights violations in the name of christianity... ever.

How can you prove that words? How can you prove the word "more"?.

Maybe it's right, but surely there are another languages who have committed MORE violations in the name of other issues than Spain in the name of christianity.

Examples: German (Nazism), English (USA wars in the name of some unknown and undiscovered master destruction weapons, British Imperium expansion), French (North Africa colonization by France), not to mention islamic world...

 

[arildno]

Smurf:
I don't quite see the relevance of the behaviour of Spanish Inquisitors&Conquistadores in early modern Europe to the issue why Benedict 16. won't talk Spanish.
(He's GERMAN for Christ's sake!)

 

[Burnsys]

Past week argentina's christian medics asociation (about 300 medics) published a comunication which said that HIV Virus could pass thru preservatives...

After this a comedy show in tv send a reporter to interview the leader of the christians medics asociation, and ask him:

Tell me. what is bigger, the hiv virus or a water molecule... he answer, the hiv molecule, then the reporter take a preservative and fill it with water, and starter to hit the desk with it. well. i don't see any whater escaping the preservative...



... Now seriulsy, its really dangerous to tell the people that hiv can pass thru preservatives... a lot of people could stop using it if they think it don't stop hiv...

 

[Burnsys]

A song from the Python:
--------------------------

There are Jews in the world, there are Buddhists,
There are Hindus and Mormons and then,
There are those that follow Mohammed,
But I’ve never been one of them…

I’m a Roman Catholic, and have been since the day I was born,
And the one thing they say about Catholics,
Is they’ll take you as soon as you’re warm…

You don’t have to be a six-footer,
You don’t have to have a great brain,
You don’t have to have any clothes on -
You’re a Catholic the moment dad came…

because…

Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

Let the heathen spill theirs, on the dusty ground,
God shall make them pay for each sperm that can’t be found

Every sperm is wanted, every sperm is good,
Every sperm is needed in your neighbourhood.

Hindu, Taoist, Mormon,
Spill thiers just anywhere,
But God loves those who treat their
Semen with more care.

Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

Every sperm is sacred,
Every sperm is good,
Every sperm is needed,
In your neighbourhood.

Every sperm is useful, every sperm is fine,
God needs everybody’s,
Mine
And mine
And mine

Let the Pagan spill theirs,
O’er mountain, hill and plain,
God shall strike them down for
Each sperm that’s spilt in vain.

Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is good,
Every sperm is needed in your neighbourhood.

Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

 

[stoned]

sperm thing is not a catholic doctrine it is judaistic law.in judaism it is strictly forbiden to masturbate and waste sperm.i don't know why people get idea that this was invented by popes?

 

[Burnsys]

sperm thing is not a catholic doctrine it is judaistic law.in judaism it is strictly forbiden to masturbate and waste sperm.i don't know why people get idea that this was invented by popes?

not invented but imposed by them at least,, i just think it was a funny song.

 

[ray b]

My first complaint is he doesn't know to speak Spanish!

It is incredible that a Pope doesn't know to speak in the language of 400 million of catholics, and the language of the nation who most defended and expanded catholicism in Middle Age. I am astonished.

DEfended or defiled?
the nutcases who killed and tourchered in the name of god
didnot defend a belife but a dogma
and blacked the name of the church
but that was the DARKAGE not the middle of anything
and the dogma of the church was the main driving force behind the darkness

BTW I am not anticathloic I hate all religions but some more than others

BTW 2 leaving the army in LATE APRIL 45 is NOT praseworthy
now if he had done that in 44 maybe but not as the war was allmost over

 

[Moses]

Just curios,
Was the Catholic church with the Allaince or with Italy and Germany during the WW II?

I guess they must have a stand, being a big event where the most powerful christians nations where killing each other in a massive orders. [besides other ideologies such as 'Athiestic?' russain leadership, and Japanese shintos..etc]

 

[stoned]

Just curios,
Was the Catholic church with the Allaince or with Italy and Germany during the WW II?

Of course you did not know that ? catholic church even operated concentrations camps all over europe and Ratzinger( evil,very evil nazi ) was a camp guard and he was one of the most sadistic people there, he was called by prisoners "babysitter".people said he loved to kill innocent babies.you see, he just smashed babies heads and german shepard dogs ate their brains and they say he sometimes ate too.i'm not kidding man !
pass this story to your high scholl or college friends, THEY MUST KNOW THE TRUTH !