Who's smarter: Senior Citizens, Middle Agers, or Young persons?

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The discussion revolves around the question of intelligence across different age groups: senior citizens, middle-aged individuals, and young persons. Participants explore various dimensions of intelligence, including wisdom, knowledge, common sense, and witt, while debating the implications of age on these qualities.

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  • Some participants argue that senior citizens possess the most wisdom and experience, which contributes to their intelligence.
  • Others suggest that middle-aged individuals have a balance of knowledge and witt, while young persons are seen as having witt but lacking broader knowledge.
  • A few participants emphasize that wisdom, common sense, witt, and knowledge are distinct qualities that cannot be directly compared.
  • There is a contention that "smartness" is not quantifiable and that the question itself may be absurd.
  • Some participants propose that experience is overrated and that the ability to learn from experiences varies among individuals.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for individuals to accumulate knowledge without gaining wisdom or practical understanding.
  • One participant humorously suggests that bears might be smarter than any of the age groups discussed.

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Participants express a range of opinions, with no clear consensus on which age group is "smarter." There are competing views on the definitions of intelligence and the relevance of age, leading to an unresolved discussion.

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Participants highlight the complexity of defining intelligence and the limitations of comparing different age groups based on subjective qualities. The discussion reflects varying assumptions about the relationship between age and intelligence.

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I say without a doubt, Senior Citizens. I are one. I am so Smart. Ask any question and I can give a good answer. I am filled with wisdom! What a feeling! I bet you think you are smarter. But really, who is SMARTER wiyh regards to Generation? An example of being so smart: if you add 2 oranges and 2 apples together, you do not get 4. Your answer is still, 2 oranges and 2 apples. Whew, I better go take a nap on that one. Can you top it?
 
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Senior citizens have the most knowledge of a wide variety of things, middle agers have a mix between general knowledge and witt, and young persons have mostly witt with virtually no knowledge of a wide variety of things.
 
But you have to admit that wisdom, common sense, witt, and knowledge are four totally different things.

Age doesn't really matter, in my opinion. Yet, einsteinian, I think you're right.
 
The very question is absurd. "Smartness" is not some number that you can measure and compare.

And timejim...if you put 2 oranges and 2 apples together you do get 4 if you're counting the number of fruits and not the number of apples and oranges. Your question was too vague to give a proper answer.
 
please, first, define "smart"...
 
I think the real question is are any of these age groups smarter than the average bear? obviously not because you don't hear about senior citizens stealing people's pickinic (or however yogi says it) baskets do you?

Bears are the smartest.
 
Originally posted by albrock06
But you have to admit that wisdom, common sense, witt, and knowledge are four totally different things.

Age doesn't really matter, in my opinion. Yet, einsteinian, I think you're right.

True, but,IMO, they are all the main qualities of intelligence.
 
Originally posted by master_coda
The very question is absurd. "Smartness" is not some number that you can measure and compare.

And timejim...if you put 2 oranges and 2 apples together you do get 4 if you're counting the number of fruits and not the number of apples and oranges. Your question was too vague to give a proper answer.

Ahhh, to be vague, at the right time, can be a sign of wit, wisdom, and the "smartness" of an individual. No, smartness cannot be measured but it can be opinion formulating. I think I'll take another nap.
 
No one is a match for a smart, healthy senior citizen; not a smart, healthy youth, or smart healthy middle-ager. Seniors have the advantages of more experience and more time to make sense of it.
 
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Originally posted by timejim
Ahhh, to be vague, at the right time, can be a sign of wit, wisdom, and the "smartness" of an individual. No, smartness cannot be measured but it can be opinion formulating. I think I'll take another nap.

Anything, at the right time, can probably be a sign of wit, wisdom and smartness.

But usually vagueness is an attempt to mask ignorance.
 
  • #11
Originally posted by zoobyshoe
No one is a match for a smart, healthy senior citizen; not a smart, healthy youth, or smart healthy middle-ager. Seniors have the advantages of more experience and more time to make sense of it.

Experience is overrated. But so is youth, so it cancels out.
 
  • #12
Originally posted by master_coda
Experience is overrated.
Experience can, indeed, end up being meaningless. It was the "more time to make sense of it" that was the more important aspect of my point. Given a youth, an adult, and a senior all working equally on learning from their experiences, the senior will always have the head start.
 
  • #13
Originally posted by zoobyshoe
Experience can, indeed, end up being meaningless. It was the "more time to make sense of it" that was the more important aspect of my point. Given a youth, an adult, and a senior all working equally on learning from their experiences, the senior will always have the head start.

I was just trying to emphasize the fact the most of the differences people point out between older and younger people (older people have more experience, younger people learn faster, etc.) don't end up making much of a difference in the real world.

I'll grant that a senior has an advantage when learning from experience, but for the most part people don't seem to bother with learning from their experience, so the advantage is usually wasted.:frown:
 
  • #14
Originally posted by master_coda ...but for the most part people don't seem to bother with learning from their experience, so the advantage is usually wasted.:frown:
Point taken.
 
  • #15
Originally posted by master_coda
I was just trying to emphasize the fact the most of the differences people point out between older and younger people (older people have more experience, younger people learn faster, etc.) don't end up making much of a difference in the real world.

I'll grant that a senior has an advantage when learning from experience, but for the most part people don't seem to bother with learning from their experience, so the advantage is usually wasted.:frown:
So then it is the middle aged that have the 'sweet spot' on learning, still close enough to the 'speed of youth', and nearer the 'age of wisdom' (arising from experience) right? (or is it 'left', tee-hee )
 
  • #16
Originally posted by einsteinian77
True, but,IMO, they are all the main qualities of intelligence.

If you say so, then that means that intelligence is improvable because wisdom comes with age.
 
  • #17
Originally posted by Thallium
If you say so, then that means that intelligence is improvable because wisdom comes with age.
Humm far as I know intelligence is the ability to learn, that is 'improvable' but has margins/limits, and "Wisdom coming with Age" is not something that is gauranteed, simple enough to be a "knowledgeable (or intelligent) old fool" (I suppose) as the accuracy of just what it is that you have learned, and the subject matter (as well) count! you could otherwise simply end up with a vast accumulation of (reasonsably) not very useful knowledge...
 
  • #18
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
Humm far as I know intelligence is the ability to learn, that is 'improvable' but has margins/limits, and "Wisdom coming with Age" is not something that is gauranteed, simple enough to be a "knowledgeable (or intelligent) old fool" (I suppose) as the accuracy of just what it is that you have learned, and the subject matter (as well) count! you could otherwise simply end up with a vast accumulation of (reasonsably) not very useful knowledge...

Very right. Good point. Not all people are able to learn and MANY will end up without anything gained.
 
  • #19
Originally posted by Thallium
Very right. Good point. Not all people are able to learn and MANY will end up without anything gained.
Ooops SHHHH! please, I know a few of these...
 
  • #20
Originally posted by timejim
I say without a doubt, Senior Citizens. I are one. I am so Smart. Ask any question and I can give a good answer. I am filled with wisdom! What a feeling! I bet you think you are smarter. But really, who is SMARTER wiyh regards to Generation? An example of being so smart: if you add 2 oranges and 2 apples together, you do not get 4. Your answer is still, 2 oranges and 2 apples. Whew, I better go take a nap on that one. Can you top it?

Though i cannot top you i can tell you onething. The smartet one is the one who is well informed no matter what his age is. If you had asked who are the most experienced i would vote for the senior ones and the ones with the most witts would be the youth and the one with the most capabilities will be middle agers.

P.S If i have gone out of the topic please forgive me.

-Benzun
 

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