Undergrad Why am I getting two different results in emu and SI unit?

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The discussion addresses discrepancies in force calculations between electromagnetic units (emu) and SI units for magnetic poles. The formula used in emu yields a force of 1 dyne, while the SI calculation results in 1.5625 × 10-17 N, indicating a mismatch. The confusion arises from the use of different units for pole strength, specifically whether it is in abC or statC. The importance of consistent unit application is emphasized to avoid errors in calculations.

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I am computing force between two magnetic poles each of one unit pole (in emu) and situated one centimeter apart.

In electromagnetic units:
##F_{dyne}=\dfrac{p^2}{r_{cm}^2}=\dfrac{1^2}{1^2}=1 dyne##
where ##p## is pole strength in emu

In SI units:
##F_{N}=k_A \dfrac{P^2}{r_m^2}=10^{-7} \dfrac{({1.25\times 10^{-7}})^2}{10^{-4}}=1.5625 \times 10^{-17} \neq 10^{-5}N=1dyne##
where ##P## is that same pole strength in SI units

with ##P=1.25\times10^{-7}p## (see here)

Now why am I getting two different results in emu and SI for the same configuration?
 
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The units in the formula "in SI units" don't match, at least not if ka is supposed to be ##\frac{\mu_0}{4 \pi}## as the numerical value used for it would suggest.
Working with units helps to spot errors.
 
mfb said:
The units in the formula "in SI units" don't match, at least not if ka is supposed to be ##\frac{\mu_0}{4 \pi}## as the numerical value used for it would suggest.
Working with units helps to spot errors.
Please can you explain a bit more elaborately?
 
Work with units, then the problem will become clear.
 
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faheemahmed6000 said:
In electromagnetic units:
##F_{dyne}=\dfrac{p^2}{r_{cm}^2}=\dfrac{1^2}{1^2}=1 dyne##
where ##p## is pole strength in emu
I agree with @mfb. You need to show the units in each of your intermediate steps. As it is, I can tell that F is in dyne and r is in cm, but I cannot tell if p is in abC or statC. If it is abC then your equation is wrong, and if it is in statC then you are using electrostatic units not electromagnetic units.
 

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