Why Am I Off by One in My Mathematics Olympiad Answer?

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The discussion revolves around a mathematics problem related to sequences and square roots, specifically focusing on the behavior of a sequence defined in terms of natural numbers and their square roots. Participants are exploring why their answers differ by one in a Mathematics Olympiad context.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to rationalize the sequence and its properties, questioning the relationship between terms defined by square roots. Some are checking specific ranges of natural numbers to identify patterns in the sequence's behavior.

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There are multiple interpretations of the problem being explored, with participants offering hints and suggestions for checking specific ranges. Some guidance has been provided regarding the examination of values within certain bounds, but a clear consensus on the reasoning behind the discrepancy in answers has not been reached.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a mathematics competition, which may impose specific rules or expectations regarding the problem-solving process. The original poster expresses confusion about their result compared to another participant's answer, indicating a need for clarification on the reasoning involved.

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in the ques that i have attached as image with this thread..
I did it as an can be solved to \sqrt{}n by rationalising it.

So as squre root of every natural no. 'n' is smaller than squre root of 'n+1' then in this ques. possible values comes out to be zero. Am i Right?
 

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hi rajatgl16! :smile:

(have a square-root: √ :wink:)

hint: try an for n = 100 up to 121 :smile:
 
I;m not getting what you mean. Please elaborate
 
Check for which n from 100..121 range an > an+1.

Do the same for any other range bounded by k2 and (k+1)2.

Look if there is some pattern.

If there is no pattern, I have no idea what tiny-tim aims at.
 
#include <stdio.h>
#include <math.h>
#define MAX 2010

int gint(float x)
{
int n;
n=x;
return n;
}

int main()
{
int a[MAX], j,k, i, count1=0;
for(i=1; i<=MAX; i++){
k=gint(sqrt(i));
a=gint(i/k);
if(a[i-1]>a){
count1++;
printf("a(%d)=%d > a(%d)=%d\n", i-1,a[i-1], i, a);
}
else continue;
}
printf("%d", count1-1);}answer comes out to be 42
 
rajatgl16 said:
in the ques that i have attached as image with this thread..
I did it as an can be solved to \sqrt{n} by rationalising it.

So as squre root of every natural no. 'n' is smaller than squre root of 'n+1' then in this ques. possible values comes out to be zero. Am i Right?

I'm thinking that a_n &gt; a_{n+1} \forall (n+1)^2 \in \mathbb{Z}.

There are \left\lfloor\sqrt{2010}\right\rfloor = 44 perfect squares less than 2010, so I get 43 different values for n such that an > an+1.
 
Mandelbroth said:
I'm thinking that a_n &gt; a_{n+1} \forall (n+1)^2 \in \mathbb{Z}.

There are \left\lfloor\sqrt{2010}\right\rfloor = 44 perfect squares less than 2010, so I get 43 different values for n such that an > an+1.
Do you realize that you've just responded to a pretty old thread ?
 
SammyS said:
Do you realize that you've just responded to a pretty old thread ?
Yes, I noticed. I'd like to know why I'm off by one from naveeniitkgp's answer, so I decided to respond here rather than make a new thread linking back to this one.

Is that bad? If so, I apologize...
 
Mandelbroth said:
Yes, I noticed. I'd like to know why I'm off by one from naveeniitkgp's answer, so I decided to respond here rather than make a new thread linking back to this one.

Is that bad? If so, I apologize...
No. That's not necessarily bad.

Your answer is correct.
 

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