1. Limited time only! Sign up for a free 30min personal tutor trial with Chegg Tutors
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Why are General Linear Groups Non Abelian?

  1. Oct 2, 2011 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
    Show that if n>1 and F is an arbitrary field, the general linear group defined by n and F is non-abelian


    2. Relevant equations
    A general linear group is the group of invertible matrices with entries from F

    A non abelian group is a group where the binary operation isn't commutative


    3. The attempt at a solution
    I thought that a good way to go about this problem would be to find two general invertible matrices that don't commute. However, I'm having trouble finding them. Is this the right way to go about it? If not, how can I prove this?
     
  2. jcsd
  3. Oct 2, 2011 #2
    Actually, the probability that two matrices will commute is zero. Take any two
    matrices A,B , neither of which is a scalar multiple of the identity, and multiply
    them. If they commute, go buy a lottery ticket; you have beaten gigantic odds.

    You may even be able to tell that the respective first entries AB1,1 and
    BA1,1 are different.
     
  4. Oct 2, 2011 #3
    When finding your non-commuting matrices, remember that there are only 2 elements guaranteed to be in your field, namely 0 and 1 (with [itex] 0 \neq 1 [/itex]), since you could even be working over [itex] \mathbb{F}_2 [/itex]. But I think your approach is good, and as Bacle said, you can show 2 matrices are not equal just by finding a single entry that isn't the same.
     
  5. Oct 2, 2011 #4
    Your right, Spamiam, I had not thought of that. I was just thinking you may do a product of 2x2 matrices , and see how difficult it is for them to commute, by checking a single entry, and trying to determine when/how it can be made to commute.
     
  6. Oct 3, 2011 #5

    Deveno

    User Avatar
    Science Advisor

    if char(F) is not 2:

    [1 1][1 0]....[2 1]
    [0 1][1 1] = [1 1],

    [1 0][1 1]....[1 1]
    [1 1][0 1] = [1 2]

    if char(F) = 2:

    [1 1][1 0]....[0 1]
    [0 1][1 1] = [1 1],

    [1 0][1 1]....[1 1]
    [1 1][0 1] = [1 0], so in either case we see these two matrices do not commute.

    for n > 2, call the first 2x2 matrix above A, the 2nd B (from the top product).

    define the following nxn matrices in block form:

    [A 0]..[B 0]
    [0 I ], [0 I]...it should be clear these are invertible, and do not commute.
     
Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook




Similar Discussions: Why are General Linear Groups Non Abelian?
Loading...