Why Are MVAR Generated and MVAR Sent Out Values Different in Power Plants?

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The discussion clarifies the difference between MVAR generated and MVAR sent out in power plants. MVAR generated refers to the reactive power produced at the generator terminals, influenced by excitation changes. In contrast, MVAR sent out accounts for in-house consumption, including losses from transformers and motors. This distinction is crucial for operators to ensure they do not exceed the generator's capability curve while meeting system dispatcher requirements.

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Hi,

Apologies if the answer to this is quite simple but I recently went on a visit to a power generating plant and when in the control room, noticed that the operator screens had two values for MVARs? There was a value for MVAR generated and a value for MVAR sent out, both were different from each other. How are these values different and what causes the difference? I would imagine the MVAR generated is that from the terminals of the generator which is controlled via Excitation changes etc.? No-one in the control room from the plant could seem to give me an answer?

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Just guessing here,,
Generated versus "sent out" will differ by inhouse consumption
Plants have lots of transformers and motors that consume quite a few vars.Was this a plant with several generators ? If so, each would be metered .

it's important for you as an operator to know generated vars so that you can verify you're not approaching your generator capability curve limit, and it's handy to know what is going out into the system because that is what the system dispatcher asks you to produce for him.
 
I guess this is a good guess:)
jim hardy said:
Just guessing here,,
Generated versus "sent out" will differ by inhouse consumption
Plants have lots of transformers and motors that consume quite a few vars.
 
Most likely this can only be answered by an "old timer". I am making measurements on an uA709 op amp (metal can). I would like to calculate the frequency rolloff curves (I can measure them). I assume the compensation is via the miller effect. To do the calculations I would need to know the gain of the transistors and the effective resistance seen at the compensation terminals, not including the values I put there. Anyone know those values?

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