Why Are My 4-Point Probe Measurements Failing?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The forum discussion focuses on troubleshooting issues with 4-point probe measurements for electrical conductivity of conductive polymer films. Key problems identified include sample burnout due to Joule heating, lack of voltage drop in semiconducting samples, and fluctuating voltage measurements from the digital multimeter. Solutions proposed include using a shunt resistor to limit current, employing a lock-in amplifier for improved signal-to-noise ratio, and ensuring proper lead attachment to the samples.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of 4-point probe measurement technique
  • Knowledge of Joule heating and its effects on conductive materials
  • Familiarity with lock-in amplifiers and their application in resistance measurements
  • Experience with digital multimeters and their operation
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the implementation of shunt resistors in 4-point probe setups
  • Learn about using lock-in amplifiers for measuring AC resistance
  • Investigate proper lead attachment techniques for accurate measurements
  • Explore the characteristics and applications of nanovolt meters
USEFUL FOR

Researchers and engineers working with electrical conductivity measurements, particularly in the field of materials science and semiconductor technology.

rury_cruz
4 point probe measurement help!

I will really appreciate if somebody can help me:

I was trying to measure the electrical conductivity of some conductive polymer films using the 4 point probe technique. Altough is widely described and seems easy to arrange, I have been unable to measure my samples due to the following problems:

1.- As soon as I turn on the power source the films burns out (like a fuse)due to the joule effect, I guess, even when I set the power source in the "constant current" mode, fixed to the minimum.
2.- When I tried to measure the electrical conductivity of the semiconducting samples, (or at least I thought so...), no voltage drop is detected between the inner probes, and no current flows at all. It seems to be "too insulating" to close the circuit
3.- The digital multimetter is always changing the voltage drop measurement, whether the current source is on or off. Could it be due to the connections?... some bi-metalic joint effect?

I hope some of you have done this kind of measurements before, I really need to know the conductivity of my samples. If you need further information feel free to contact me...
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Hanyuri
Physics news on Phys.org
For the first problem you could put a shunt resistor in the cicuit to limit the current through the sample.

If the sample is insulating then you won't read a votlage across the inner leads.

A perferred method is to use a lockin-amp and measure the AC-resistance. It will give you a better S/N ratio. Otherwise you might need a nanovolt meter you get decent results.

How are you attaching your leads to the sample? This was a major problem that I ran into while making these type measurements.


JMD
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
16
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
749
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
662