Why are prime numbers suddenly relevant in modern technology?

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The discussion centers around the relevance of prime numbers in modern technology and their practical applications, particularly in fields such as cryptography and biology. Participants explore various contexts in which prime numbers play a significant role, including their mathematical properties and implications for real-world scenarios.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the importance of prime numbers in real life and their practical uses.
  • Others mention the use of prime numbers in public-key cryptography, highlighting the difficulty of factoring large numbers into their prime factors.
  • A participant discusses the life cycles of periodical cicadas, suggesting that their prime-numbered lifespans may provide survival advantages against predators.
  • There is a reference to the historical perspective on number theory, with some participants noting the sudden relevance of primes in technology compared to their long history of study.
  • Some participants express the view that mathematics, including the study of prime numbers, is inherently relevant to real life.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the significance of prime numbers in various applications, but there are differing views on the historical context and the timing of their relevance in technology. The discussion remains open-ended without a consensus on all points raised.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the applications of prime numbers depend on specific definitions and contexts, such as the nature of cryptographic methods and biological implications. The discussion does not resolve the nuances of these applications.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring the intersections of mathematics, technology, and biology, particularly those curious about the practical implications of prime numbers.

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Why are prime numbers important in real life? What practical use are prime numbers?
 
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Ask periodical cidacas why they use prime numbers for the cycle length.
 
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from Wikipedia:
Primes are used in several routines in information technology, such as public-key cryptography, which makes use of properties such as the difficulty of factoring large numbers into their prime factors. Prime numbers give rise to various generalizations in other mathematical domains, mainly algebra, such as prime elements and prime ideals.

read more below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_number

http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/02/ask-ars-why-spend-time-and-money-finding-new-prime-numbers/
 
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janhaa said:
Prime numbers give rise to various generalizations in other mathematical domains, mainly algebra, such as prime elements and prime ideals.

Definitely a real life application.
 
Borek said:
Definitely a real life application.

Isn't math real life?

:-)
 
Borek said:
Definitely a real life application.
For a mathematician it certainly is!
 
Borek said:
Ask periodical cidacas why they use prime numbers for the cycle length.

Interesting Borek. I had to investigate:

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-are-cicada-lifespans-prime-numbers-2013-5

The fact that the surviving periodical cicadas have life cycles built on prime numbers may have conferred key survival advantages. A prime-numbered lifespan means that predators cannot match their own shorter life cycles to the availability of cicada prey. For instance, if the cicadas had even-numbered lifespans, a predator with a two-year life cycle could expect a cicada feast, and a subsequent population bump, every few generations, because all even numbers are divisible by two. As explained in 2001 by a trio of researchers from the University of Chile and the Max Planck Institute of Molecular Physiology in Germany, “a prey with a 12-year cycle will meet — every time it appears — properly synchronized predators appearing every 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 or 12 years, whereas a mutant with a 13-year period has the advantage of being subject to fewer predators.”
 
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janhaa said:
from Wikipedia:
Primes are used in several routines in information technology, such as public-key cryptography, which makes use of properties such as the difficulty of factoring large numbers into their prime factors.

Poor Hardy! He went to his grave proud of the uselessness of number theory.

Strange that a discipline studied for millennia suddenly became useful only a couple of decades ago.
 
SteveL27 said:
Poor Hardy! He went to his grave proud of the uselessness of number theory. Strange that a discipline studied for millennia suddenly became useful only a couple of decades ago.

true, but primes also became important with the invention and the use of computers ...
 

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