Why Are the Terms Squared After Substitution in Green's Theorem Integral?

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The discussion revolves around finding the area bounded by a specific curve defined by the equation \(((x^2)/(a^2))+((y^2)/(b^2)))=xy/(c^2)\). The original poster attempts to use polar coordinates for the substitution and is exploring the implications of this transformation on the integral setup.

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  • Participants discuss the substitution of Cartesian coordinates into polar coordinates and the resulting transformations. There is a question raised about the appearance of squared terms after the substitution, prompting further exploration of the mathematical relationships involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's work and questioning the correctness of the transformation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between differential areas in Cartesian and polar coordinates.

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i would like to find the area bounded by the curve



(((x^2)/(a^2))+((y^2)/(b^2)))=xy/(c^2)



i used the substitution given x=(ar)cos(theta) and y=(ar)sin(theta)



i get :

(r^2cos^2(theta)+r^2sin^2(theta))^2=xy/(c^2)

thus r^4=xy/(c^2)
substituting x=(ar)cos(theta) and y=(ar)sin(theta) on the right hand side, i get
r^4=(r^2)(ab(cos<theta>)(sin<theta>)/c^2

then r^2=ab(cos<theta>)(sin<theta>)/c^2


then i used jacobian to transform dxdy to drd(theta):

i get abr(dr)(d(theta))

then i carried out the double integral
-- --
/ /
/ / abr(dr)(d(theta))
-- --

but i get 0. please advice
 
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image not working for me.

i'd recommend putting in a little bit of time to learn what you need to about latex to be able to post your problem. knowing latex is important if you intend on publishing research papers, anyway.
 
Brad Barker said:
image not working for me.

i'd recommend putting in a little bit of time to learn what you need to about latex to be able to post your problem. knowing latex is important if you intend on publishing research papers, anyway.

thx for telling me about the image not working, i have posted the question in typed form, please take a look. thx.
 
damndamnboi said:
thx for telling me about the image not working, i have posted the question in typed form, please take a look. thx.

i just skimmed your work and noticed that you had

[tex] <br /> dxdy = drd\theta<br /> [/tex].

the correct relationship is[tex] <br /> dxdy = rdrd\theta<br /> [/tex].
 
[tex] \frac{x^2}{a^2}+\frac{y^2}{b^2}=\frac{xy}{c^2}<br /> <br /> \smallskip<br /> <br /> \mbox{let} x=ar\cos\theta \mbox{and} y=ar\sin\theta<br /> <br /> \smallskip<br /> <br /> (r^2\cos^2\theta+r^2\sin^2\theta)^2=\frac{xy}{c^2}[/tex]

...wait a minute, why does your first equation not have the terms squared, but then after the substitution, they are squared again?
 

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