Why Are There Contradictions in Hasse Diagram Examples?

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of Hasse diagrams in the context of partially ordered sets (posets) defined by divisibility. Participants are questioning the validity of certain connections in a provided Hasse diagram example, particularly regarding the concept of immediate predecessors and successors.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the Hasse diagram for the poset defined by divisibility, questioning why there are lines between elements that seem to have other elements in between, such as between 1 and 5, and 1 and 7.
  • Another participant challenges the assertion that 1 divides 2 and 2 divides 5, implying a need for clarification on the relationships depicted in the diagram.
  • Further inquiries are made about why 2 is considered an immediate predecessor of 10, prompting a discussion about what numbers could exist between them in terms of divisibility.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as there are multiple questions and challenges regarding the relationships in the Hasse diagram, indicating ongoing confusion and disagreement about the definitions and examples provided.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in the examples provided, particularly concerning the definitions of immediate predecessors in the context of divisibility and the specific relationships among the elements in the poset.

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Ok I don't understand one thing...We ahd this example in school

We have poset < {1,2,5,7,10,14,35,70}, | >
| meas factor, for example a|b means b=ka, where k=integer

and we got this Hasse diagram

Code:
        70
       / | \
     10 14 35
     | X  X |
     2   5  7
      \  | /
         1

X means crossed lines

But the hasse diagram definition says that we draw a line between element and the element above it if and only if the lower element is the immediate predecessor of the above one. So why is there a line between 1 and 5? Because there's element 2 in between. Same with 1 and 7, 2 and 10, 7 and 35, etc etc same with almost every element. To me they don't seem to be immediate predecessors/successors with each other

I have google some more examples but they all have the same contradiction between definition and example. So what i don't understand here :(
 
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arnold28 said:
So why is there a line between 1 and 5? Because there's element 2 in between.
Really? 1 divides 2 and 2 divides 5?
 
i still don't get it :(
for example why is 2 immediate predecessor of 10
 
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arnold28 said:
i still don't get it :(
for example why is 2 immediate predecessor of 10
Well, what could come between them? What numbers both divide 10 and are divisible by 2?
 

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