Why are Whirlpools not as big as Tornados/hurricanes?

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The discussion explores the reasons why whirlpools and maelstroms are not as large or powerful as tornadoes and hurricanes, focusing on the differences in energy capacity and material density between air and water.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the energy capacity difference between air (gas) and water (liquid) may explain the size and power disparity between whirlpools and tornadoes/hurricanes.
  • Others propose that the density of water compared to air requires more energy to move water the same distance, potentially limiting the size of whirlpools.
  • A participant notes that there are extensive circular currents in the ocean that can be as large as hurricanes, speculating that these currents may have more angular momentum than hurricanes, though their effects are less dramatic.
  • There is a question raised regarding the current speeds of these ocean currents in comparison to hurricane wind speeds.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the reasons for the size and power differences, and multiple competing views remain regarding the factors involved.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about energy capacity and material density are not fully explored, and the discussion does not resolve the comparison of current speeds to hurricane wind speeds.

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Any idea as to why Whirlpools, and maelstrom's aren't as large, or as powerful as tornado's and hurricane's?

Does it have to deal with the energy capacity difference between the air (being a gas) and water (being liquid)?
 
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Is there actually a notable size difference?

If so, I imagine it's because of the density of the material and available energy. Water is denser than air, so it takes more energy to move it the same amount.
 
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Justice Hunter said:
Any idea as to why Whirlpools, and maelstrom's aren't as large, or as powerful as tornado's and hurricane's?

Does it have to deal with the energy capacity difference between the air (being a gas) and water (being liquid)?

There are very extensive circular currents that are as large as hurricanes. I'd guess that such currents have a lot more angular momentum than a hurricane. The effects aren't as dramatic, though.
 
Hornbein said:
There are very extensive circular currents that are as large as hurricanes. I'd guess that such currents have a lot more angular momentum than a hurricane. The effects aren't as dramatic, though.

What are the current speeds compared to hurricane wind speeds?
 
Thanks for the great answers!
 

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