Why aren't turbines used in water supply systems?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the feasibility and practicality of integrating turbines into water supply systems to generate electricity from flowing water. Participants explore the implications of such a system on energy production, water pressure, and overall efficiency, touching on both theoretical and practical aspects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes the idea of installing turbines in water supply pipes to generate electricity as water flows through them.
  • Another participant questions the practicality of this idea, suggesting that it would increase the load on the distribution system and produce less energy than is required to deliver the water.
  • A participant counters that turbines could potentially recover some energy used in pumping water, but acknowledges concerns about maintaining adequate tap pressure and flow.
  • Concerns are raised about the need for larger pumps in the distribution system to compensate for the energy loss, which would negate the benefits of the inline turbines.
  • One participant notes that while the concept is implemented on a larger scale in some contexts, it may not be suitable for typical home water supply systems.
  • Another mentions that similar technology is used in self-powered water meters, but these do not capture significant energy to avoid disrupting flow.
  • A participant shares their local context, indicating that water sources are primarily from mountains, which may limit the applicability of turbines due to flow restrictions.
  • Discussion includes the idea of using pumped water for energy storage, referencing practices in hydroelectric systems, although noting that this does not apply to drinking water systems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the practicality and efficiency of using turbines in water supply systems. While some acknowledge potential energy recovery, others emphasize the challenges and trade-offs involved, indicating that no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to flow restrictions, the need for larger pumps, and the specific contexts in which similar technologies are applied. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions about energy recovery and system design.

rasen58
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I had an idea to put a rotating mill turbine into the pipes that supply water to home tap systems.
So that as the water flows through, the turbine is spun and electricity is produced.

But why isn't this actually done?
 
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Why increase the load on a distribution system to produce less energy than you already have to put into deliver water?
 
But wouldn't the turbine in the pipe regain some of the energy used to pump the water initially?
 
rasen58 said:
some of the energy used to pump the water initially?
Yes, and the customers would complain that tap pressure and flow was inadequate. You'd have to put in bigger pumps in the distribution system, and the extra power required to run them would not be offset by the inline turbines.
 
rasen58 said:
But why isn't this actually done?

It is actually done, just on a larger ... and somewhat different scale.

Bysdander said:
Yes, and the customers would complain that tap pressure and flow was inadequate. You'd have to put in bigger pumps in the distribution system, and the extra power required to run them would not be offset by the inline turbines.

Lol... no doubt about that... there's always a trade off ... :oldwink:
 
Note that this idea is utilized for self powered water meters, but they don't capture much energy, lest they adversely affect the flow.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/amphiro-a1-the-self-powered-smart-water-meter-for-the-shower#description
 
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well were I live there's not much pumping going on, all water comes from the mountain sources above.

I guess it affects flow though, as it restricts the passage of the water.

For flat areas with water towers, you could probably spare money by not pumping the water so high in the first place.

Pumping water uphill as a way to store energy when there is too much production is actually done with nuclear energy and hydroelectric dams during the night, but that's not drinking water.
 

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