# Why can't I quote the quotations in the original post containing MathJax?

12john
Please see the screenshot below. Why doesn't your website quote my 2 original quotations containing MathJax?

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You can only quote user A what has actually been said by user A, not the quotes of A quoting B. Firstly, the quotation says whom you quote, which would be inaccurate if you quoted more users at the same time. Secondly, how many nested quotations would be sufficient before it gets unreadable? The software only allows one quotation, no nested ones. However, if you want to quote multiple persons, then you can do it: gather every single quotation (done in the quotation buffer) and then insert them as needed. It's a bit more work to do, but possible.

dextercioby
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The software will allow you to nest quotes, you just have to do it the hard way entering the quote and /quote tags yourself while the editor is in BBCODE mode.

It's seldom a good idea, nearly always there are clearer and more concise ways of making your point. But if you have to... you can.

DaveC426913
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Yep. Nugat is correct. I occasionally manually nest quotes when it doesn't make sense otherwise.

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You can only quote user A what has actually been said by user A, not the quotes of A quoting B.
Indeed. I find this a huge frustration.

Firstly, the quotation says whom you quote, which would be inaccurate if you quoted more users at the same time.
But the quoted quotation can show the attribution as it does if you insert it manually.

Secondly, how many nested quotations would be sufficient before it gets unreadable?
I think the answer is surely greater than 0. @Greg Bernhardt could we experiment for a while?

The software only allows one quotation, no nested ones. However, if you want to quote multiple persons, then you can do it: gather every single quotation (done in the quotation buffer) and then insert them as needed. It's a bit more work to do, but possible.
Its a lot more work to do: as well as gathering the quotations you also have to edit them down in the same way as in the primary message you are quoting. It is very tempting not to bother and just copy and paste the quoted text from the primary message and then it doesn't even get marked as a quotation, which is the worst position of all.

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Initial Quote
Responding Quote
becomes

Initial Quote
Responding Quote
By moving the responding [ quote ] to the top, thus:

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]Initial Quote[ /QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]Responding Quote[ /QUOTE ]

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Nested quotes are a thing of nightmares that belong in the underworld! Keep them away!
Edit: The only thing worse are the users that quote the entirety of a multi-paragraph post without breaking it up to address each part one at a time.

BillTre
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if you want to quote multiple persons, then you can do it: gather every single quotation (done in the quotation buffer) and then insert them as needed. It's a bit more work to do, but possible.
Much easier: select a piece of text you want to include as a quote in your post, then select “reply” instead of “quote” - it will be inserted with the appropriate quote tags at the current insertion point in your post.

The quotation buffer is only need, AFAICT, for cross-thread quoting.

BillTre
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Much easier: select a piece of text you want to include as a quote in your post, then select “reply” instead of “quote” - it will be inserted with the appropriate quote tags at the current insertion point in your post.
I can't get this to work - no matter what I select in your post for instance it inserts the whole message but without @fresh_42's comment
Code:
[QUOTE="Nugatory, post: 6594910, member: 382138"]
Much easier: select a piece of text you want to include as a quote in your post, then select “reply” instead of “quote” - it will be inserted with the appropriate quote tags at the current insertion point in your post.

The quotation buffer is only need, AFAICT, for cross-thread quoting.
[/QUOTE]

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I can't get this to work - no matter what I select in your post for instance it inserts the whole message but without @fresh_42 ’s comment
Sorry, I wasn’t describing a technique for nesting quotes (AFAIK, that can only be done by manually rearranging quote tags) but rather for multi quoting.

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Sorry, I wasn’t describing a technique for nesting quotes (AFAIK, that can only be done by manually rearranging quote tags) but rather for multi quoting.
If you use the quotation buffer, then you will have all the necessary quotes (from different posts) at hand and be able to arrange them as needed. That was my argument with the buffer.

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I can't get this to work - no matter what I select in your post for instance it inserts the whole message but without @fresh_42's comment
When you do what @pbuk said, there are two reply buttons to choose from. For example as in this screen shot.

One thing I find very annoying; if the thread includes a Summary, the entire summary is included in every quote, regardless of what you highlighted. In my opinion, the entire Summary feature was a bad idea and should be removed.

DaveC426913
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By the way, the necessity of quoting nested quotations is only due to a bad style. It results from the fact, that the quotation was sloppy and written with laziness.
The Earth is flat.
I do not agree.
You do not agree with what? Why can't you say it in your own words?
The Earth is flat.
I do not agree with a flat earth.
Or what is usually done in texts:
A said:
The Earth is not flat.
I do not agree [flat earth].
It is the unreferenced statements that make nesting necessary. It often occurs when we use words like this or that, him, her, or them, or similar unspecific references. Avoid them [unspecified references], and there will be no need for nested quotations.

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Sorry, I wasn’t describing a technique for nesting quotes (AFAIK, that can only be done by manually rearranging quote tags) but rather for multi quoting.

If you use the quotation buffer, then you will have all the necessary quotes (from different posts) at hand and be able to arrange them as needed. That was my argument with the buffer.
Kind of off topic, but I've only just figured out how to use the quote buffer from this thread (using the two posts that twigged the necessary neurons!). So, thank you, @12john, if nothing else, you've helped me out.

Now, how to nest quotes? Hmmm...

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Now, how to nest quotes? Hmmm...
Switch to BB mode. If you click on the symbol [ ] you will see the source code, i.e. letters only. It should look like

[QUOTE="Nugatory, post: 6594916, member: 382138"]
Sorry, I wasn’t describing a technique for nesting quotes (AFAIK, that can only be done by manually rearranging quote tags) but rather for multi quoting.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="fresh_42, post: 6594930, member: 572553"]
If you use the quotation buffer, then you will have all the necessary quotes (from different posts) at hand and be able to arrange them as needed. That was my argument with the buffer.
[/QUOTE]

and you can cut and paste the texts. Don't forget to switch back to the usual mode by clicking [ ] again. The other icons are disabled in BB mode.

Melbourne Guy