Why Can't S² Have a Globally Flat Geometry?

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The discussion revolves around the question of why the sphere S² cannot have a globally flat geometry, exploring topological considerations, the implications of the Gauss-Bonnet theorem, and the characteristics of vector fields on manifolds. The scope includes theoretical aspects of geometry and topology.

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  • Some participants argue that a diffeomorphism from S² to R² cannot exist due to the preservation of compactness in continuous maps.
  • Others mention that global flatness would imply the existence of two nowhere vanishing vector fields on S², which is not possible.
  • One participant states that the Euler characteristic of S² is 2, and by the Gauss-Bonnet theorem, global flatness would imply a contradiction since it would require the Euler characteristic to be zero.
  • Another participant discusses the implications of the Gauss-Bonnet theorem and the existence of compact flat Riemannian manifolds, noting that the sphere cannot be covered by flat Euclidean space.
  • Some participants explore the relationship between global flatness and the existence of vector fields, with differing views on the implications for the sphere and other surfaces.
  • There is a discussion on whether a manifold with a vanishing Euler characteristic must necessarily have a globally flat geometry, with some participants asserting that this is not guaranteed.
  • One participant highlights that the only compact flat surfaces without boundary are the flat torus and the flat Klein bottle, while others question the existence of independent vector fields on S².

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Participants express multiple competing views regarding the implications of the Gauss-Bonnet theorem, the nature of vector fields on S², and the conditions for global flatness. The discussion remains unresolved with no consensus on several points raised.

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Some participants reference the Euler characteristic and its implications for flat geometries, while others note the limitations of certain assumptions regarding vector fields and compactness. The discussion includes complex mathematical reasoning that may depend on specific definitions and theorems.

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Quick question: from which topological consideration can one derive the fact that a sphere S² does not allow for a globally flat geometry?
 
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Because it would mean that there is a diffeomorphism S^2 -->R^2. But continuous maps preserve compactness, so no such map exists.
 
quasar987 said:
Because it would mean that there is a diffeomorphism S^2 -->R^2

Well, an infinite cyllinder has a globally flat geometry, but there is no diffeomorphism from the cylinder onto R^2.

But you may check this ion Wikipedia: "Vector fields on spheres". Global flatness of S^2 would imply existence of two nowhere vanishing vector fields.
 
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Ok, I thought globally flat meant there exists a global isometry from S^2 + some metric to R^2 + usual metric.
 
tom.stoer said:
Quick question: from which topological consideration can one derive the fact that a sphere S² does not allow for a globally flat geometry?

A flat manifold must have Euler characteristic zero.

This is the content of the Gauss Bonnet theorem.

One can prove that every compact flat Riemannian manifold is covered by flat euclidean space by the action of a group of isometries. Such groups are known as Bieberbach groups and are extensions of lattices by finite groups.

The sphere on the other hand can not be covered by anything but itself because it is simply connected. So it can not be flat.

The only compact flat surfaces without boundary are the flat torus and the flat Klein bottle. In each dimension there are finitely many compact flat Riemannian manifolds. I know that all of the 3 manifolds have been determined and maybe all of the 4 manifolds as well - not sure. Generally, it is daunting to try to calculate all of the flat manifolds in a high dimension.

More generally whenever you have a flat bundle (in this case the tangent bundle of the flat manifold) whose connection is consistent with a Riemannian metric, the Euler class of the bundle is zero. On the other hand there are examples of flat bundles - even over surfaces - whose connections do no derive from a metric and whose Euler class is not zero.

A simple realization of the flat torus in the unit 3 sphere is the set of points (1/2^.5)(sin x, cos x, sin y, cos y).
So the flat torus can be embedded in 4 dimensions. It would be interesting to know if the same is true of the flat Klein bottle - maybe not.
 
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quasar987 said:
Ok, I thought globally flat meant there exists a global isometry from S^2 + some metric to R^2 + usual metric.

Globally flat means that the curvature tensor is identically zero.

A global isometry would be a diffeomorphism. The flat torus is not diffeomorphic to R^2.
 
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@lavinia: thanks for reminding me to these facts

Let me see if I understand. The Euler characteristic of S² is 2. This can be seen by using a triangulation on S² or by calculating

\chi_{S^2} = 2 - 2g_{S^2}

and using

g_{S^2} = 0

But by Gauss-Bonnet we know that

\chi_{S^2} = \frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{S^2}K

Global flatness would imply K = 0 globally which results in \chi_{S^2} = 0 which is a contradiction.
 
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tom.stoer said:
@lavinia: thanks for reminding me to these facts

Let me see if I understand. The Euler characteristic of S² is 2. This can be seen by using a triangulation on S² or by calculating

\chi_{S^2} = 2 - 2g_{S^2}

and using

g_{S^2} = 0

But by Gauss-Bonnet we know that

\chi_{S^2} = \frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{S^2}K

Global flatness would imply K = 0 globally which results in \chi_{S^2} = 0 which is a contradiction.

right. the Gauss Bonnet theorem works in all dimensions. There is a differential form which is a polynomial in the curvature 2 form that equals the Euler class of the tangent bundle.
 
arkajad said:
Well, an infinite cyllinder has a globally flat geometry, but there is no diffeomorphism from the cylinder onto R^2.

But you may check this ion Wikipedia: "Vector fields on spheres". Global flatness of S^2 would imply existence of two nowhere vanishing vector fields.

generally global flatness only implies the existence of one nowhere vanishing vector field. On an oriented surface, on can rotate one vector field to get another but generally there is no way to do this. On an unorientable surface for instance, this does not work. The Klein bottle has only one independent non zero vector field and yet it admits a flat metric.
 
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On flat surfaces, there is not only a non-zero vector field but the field can be chosen to always be tangent to geodesics - the projections of lines in the plane into the surface. I wonder if this always true of a flat manifold. It is certainly true if the first Betti number of the manifold is not zero.
 
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lavinia said:
generally global flatness only implies the existence of one nowhere vanishing vector field.

S^2 is two-dimensional, connected and simply connected. You choose two orthonormal tangent vectors at one point and transport them using parallel transport to every other point. This transport is path independent (zero curvature plus topology). This way you would get two orthonormal vector fields. While by Adams' theorem even one does not exist.
 
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Thanks again.
 
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arkajad said:
S^2 is two-dimensional, connected and simply connected. You choose two orthonormal tangent vectors at one point and transport them using parallel transport to every other point. This transport is path independent (zero curvature plus topology). This way you would get two orthonormal vector fields. While by Adams' theorem even one does not exist.

this is wrong. There are no independent vector fields on the 2 sphere. Further the sphere does not have zero curvature.
There are no simply connected compact flat Riemannian manifolds.
 
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By inspection of 2-2g = 0 only g=1 allows for globally flat geometries.

Another related question: The Gauss-Bonnet theorem restricts the existence of globally flat geometries. What about the other way round? Suppose I have a manifold for which I can proof that the Euler characteristic vanishes. Does this automatically guarantuee that a globally flat geometry must exist? I guess not, but what are the other restrictions?
 
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lavinia said:
this is wrong. There are no independent vector fields on the 2 sphere.

1) That is what I was saying, assuming hypothetically global flatness - as in the original question. Proof by contradiction. There is not even one.

2) Whether a given manifold is globally flat or not depends on the Riemannian metric. R^2 can be made globally flat and can be made non-flat even locally. Up to you.
 
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tom.stoer said:
By inspection of 2-2g = 0 only g=1 allows for globally flat geometries.

Another related question: The Gauss-Bonnet theorem restricts the existence of globally flat geometries. What about the other way round? Suppose I have a manifold for which I can proof that the Euler characteristic vanishes. Does this automatically guarantuee that a globally flat geometry must exist? I guess not, but what are the other restrictions?

Absolutely not. There are many manifolds of zero Euler characteristic.

Take any manifold and take its Cartesian product with a circle.

If a compact manifold is flat then all of its Stiefel Whitney numbers must be zero. But there are many non-flat manifolds of zero euler charateristic and all zero Stiefel Whitney numbers so this does not suffice.

the mod 2 reduction of the Euler characteristic is the top Stiefel Whitney number but there are many other Stiefel Whitney numbers as well.
 
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arkajad said:
1) That is what I was saying, assuming hypothetically global flatness - as in the original question. Proof by contradiction. There is not even one.

2) Whether a given manifold is globally flat or not depends on the Riemannian metric. R^2 can be made globally flat and can be made non-flat even locally. Up to you.

OK. Didn't understand what you were getting at.

A simply connected globally flat manifold can not be compact. The only example is Euclidean space.
 
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tom.stoer said:
By inspection of 2-2g = 0 only g=1 allows for globally flat geometries.

Another related question: The Gauss-Bonnet theorem restricts the existence of globally flat geometries. What about the other way round? Suppose I have a manifold for which I can proof that the Euler characteristic vanishes. Does this automatically guarantuee that a globally flat geometry must exist? I guess not, but what are the other restrictions?

I doubt that there are conditions on Characteristic classes that guarantee that the manifold has a flat a metric. For instance the sphere cartesian product with a circle has zero Euler characteristic and all zero Stiefel Whitney numbers.

Flat manifolds have finite holonomy group - so the structure group of the tangent bundle is finite - this is an extremely strict condition.
 

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