Why Did I Get a Different Average Velocity Calculation for the Particle?

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The discussion centers on a user who calculated an average velocity of -4 ft/s instead of the expected 0 ft/s. The user initially used a formula for average velocity but overlooked the correct application of parentheses, leading to errors in their calculations. Other participants suggested simplifying the problem by directly calculating initial and final positions rather than relying solely on algebra. The user acknowledged the mistake regarding the parentheses and expressed gratitude for the assistance. The conversation highlights the importance of careful algebraic manipulation in physics calculations.
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The solution to (a)(i) is 0 ft/s. However I got -4 ft/s.

The formula I used was,
##v_{avg} = \frac{s_f - s_i}{t_f - t_i}##
##v_{avg} = \frac{\frac{1}{2}t^2_f - 6t_f + 23 - \frac{1}{2}t^2_i - 6t_i + 23}{t_f - t_i}##
##v_{avg} = \frac{ \frac{1}{2}(t^2_f - t^2_i) - 6(t_f - t_i)}{t_f - t_i}##

If someone could please point out what I did wrong, that would be much appreciated.

Many thanks!
 
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Can't you just plug in the times in question to get the two positions in question? All the algebra seems unnecessary.

That aside, I don't see where the -4 comes from. Your bottom line seems correct.
 
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Halc said:
Can't you just plug in the times in question to get the two positions in question? All the algebra seems unnecessary.

That aside, I don't see where the -4 comes from. Your bottom line seems correct.
Thank you for your reply @Halc!

Sorry, my mistake. The formula that I forgot to write above was ## v_{avg} = \frac{1}{2}\Delta t - 6## because I mistakenly cancelled some of the change in times.

Many thanks!
 
1) You should include some parenthesis in your second line where you have substituted for ##s_i##.
ChiralSuperfields said:
The formula that I forgot to write above was ## v_{avg} = \frac{1}{2}\Delta t - 6##
2) This looks wrong to me. I think it should be ##v_{avg} = \frac{\frac{1}{2}(t_f+t_i)(t_f-t_i) - 6(t_f-t_i)}{(t_f-t_i)}= \frac{1}{2}(t_f+t_i) - 6##.
3) You could always follow the advice @Halc gave in post #2 of just calculating the initial and final positions. At least use that to check your algebra.
 
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ChiralSuperfields said:
##v_{avg} = \frac{ \frac{1}{2}(t^2_f - t^2_i) - 6(t_f - t_i)}{t_f - t_i}##

If someone could please point out what I did wrong, that would be much appreciated.
Formula seems correct. Did you simply forget the ##1\over 2## ?

[edit] never mind :smile:
 
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ChiralSuperfields said:
##v_{avg} = \frac{\frac{1}{2}t^2_f - 6t_f + 23 - \frac{1}{2}t^2_i - 6t_i + 23}{t_f - t_i}##
Typo: Missing parentheses around the ##t_i## terms, leading to wrong signs.
ChiralSuperfields said:
The formula that I forgot to write above was ## v_{avg} = \frac{1}{2}\Delta t - 6##
What is ##\frac{x^2-y^2}{x-y}##?
 
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FactChecker said:
1) You should include some parenthesis in your second line where you have substituted for ##s_i##.

2) This looks wrong to me. I think it should be ##v_{avg} = \frac{\frac{1}{2}(t_f+t_i)(t_f-t_i) - 6(t_f-t_i)}{(t_f-t_i)}= \frac{1}{2}(t_f+t_i) - 6##.
3) You could always follow the advice @Halc gave in post #2 of just calculating the initial and final positions. At least use that to check your algebra.
Thank you for your reply @FactChecker ! I agree.
 
BvU said:
Formula seems correct. Did you simply forget the ##1\over 2## ?

[edit] never mind :smile:
haruspex said:
Typo: Missing parentheses around the ##t_i## terms, leading to wrong signs.

What is ##\frac{x^2-y^2}{x-y}##?
Thank you for your replies @BvU and @haruspex!

Yes, sorry I forgot the parentheses. ##\frac{(x + y)(x - y)}{x - y} = x + y##

Many thanks!
 
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