Why Did My Projectile Motion Calculation Yield the Incorrect Height?

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The discussion revolves around a projectile motion problem involving a projectile fired at an angle with a given initial speed. The original poster is attempting to calculate the height of the projectile when it hits a wall located at a specified horizontal distance.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculations related to time of flight and height at peak, with some questioning the arithmetic and the interpretation of results. There is a focus on clarifying the correct use of formulas for height and time in projectile motion.

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Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the problem differently, suggesting that the original poster may need to reconsider their calculations and the formulas used. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to arrive at the correct height.

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Participants note potential arithmetic errors and the importance of distinguishing between the height at peak and the height when hitting the wall. There is mention of significant figures and the impact of assumptions on the calculations.

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Okay, so I don't know what it is I'm doing wrong here.

Here is the question:
A projectile is fired from the ground (you can assume the initial height is the same as the ground) in a field so there are no obstacles in its way. It is fired at an angle 33° with respect to the horizontal and with an initial speed of 36 m/s. Air resistance is negligible in this situation.

The same projectile was then fired in the same way toward a wall that is a horizontal distance 106.2 m from where the projectile was fired.
What was the height of the projectile when it hit the wall?

t = vx/dx = 106.2 m / 36cos(33degrees) = about 3.5 s
Peak is at 2 s: vfy = viy + at = 0 = 36sin(33degrees) - 9.8t
3.5 s - 2 s = 1.5 s
y = vyt + (1/2)(ay(t^2)) = 0 + (.5*9.81*1.51747^2) = 11.3 m

I got 11.3 m, and it is NOT the correct answer
 
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waters said:
t = vx/dx = 106.2 m / 36cos(33degrees) = about 3.5 s
OK.
Peak is at 2 s: vfy = viy + at = 0 = 36sin(33degrees) - 9.8t
3.5 s - 2 s = 1.5 s
y = vyt + (1/2)(ay(t^2)) = 0 + (.5*9.81*1.51747^2) = 11.3 m
What you found (assuming you did the arithmetic OK) is the distance it fell from the peak. What you need is the height from the ground.

Why not just plug the time into the equation for y?
 
Thanks for the reply.

I'm feel as if I did the arithmetic correctly, but that's only because I don't think I can find my mistakes. I just entered 18.9 m, and it was wrong. The peak I calculated was at 30.192 m, and it was right.

By plugging the time into the equation for y, you mean vx/dx, right?
 
Hold on, that was the speed at the top. My bad. I'll try again.

I'm not too great at physics; it is seriously one of my weak spots.

Thanks for the help; I got the right answer. The maximum vertical distance is 19.594, so 19.594 -11.29 = 8.3 m, which is the correct answer. Sorry about the sig figs.
 
waters said:
The peak I calculated was at 30.192 m, and it was right.
Why do think it was right? (How far will something fall in 2 seconds?)
By plugging the time into the equation for y, you mean vx/dx, right?
No, I meant plug it into the formula for y(t). What's that formula?

But there are several ways to solve this. Yours is just fine, but you're making an error.
 
Oh, what I meant by that was substituting vx/dx for time into the equation that I used for y(t). Actually, it's exactly how I solved this problem.
 

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