Why Didn't the Ship Sink When a 15kg Bird Landed on It?

  • Context: High School 
  • Thread starter Thread starter sbsbhilai
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Ship
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a riddle concerning why a ship does not sink when a 15 kg bird lands on it, despite the ship being described as heavily loaded. Participants explore various hypotheses and interpretations related to buoyancy, weight distribution, and the nature of the bird.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the ship may have used up more than 15 kg of fuel during its journey, making it lighter.
  • Others propose that the ship was loaded in freshwater and then moved to saltwater, which could affect buoyancy.
  • A participant humorously suggests that the crew might have discarded 15 kg worth of lunch, contributing to the ship's stability.
  • There are discussions about the type of bird, with some noting that pelicans, which can weigh around 15 kg, are more likely to be found at sea than mute swans.
  • One participant mentions that if the bird had been flying around in the hold, it would not have affected the ship's buoyancy when it landed.
  • Another proposes that the weight distribution could be a factor, suggesting that if the ship was listing, the bird's landing on the opposite side might not cause it to sink.
  • Some participants engage in light-hearted banter and jokes related to the riddle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single explanation for why the ship does not sink. Multiple competing views and hypotheses are presented, reflecting uncertainty and differing interpretations of the riddle.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the ship's loading conditions, the nature of the bird, and the effects of buoyancy in different water types remain unresolved. The discussion includes speculative reasoning without definitive conclusions.

sbsbhilai
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
Why the ship does not sinks?
A ship is loaded in such a way that even if a single coin is loaded on it more, the ship will sink. However, after it travels some distance in sea, a bird weighing 15 kg dies and falls on the ship but the ship does not sinks. Why?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Is this homework?
 
no my kid asked me
 
It's a riddle.
 
I would assume that if the boat was that packed then rocking on waves would cause cargo to fall off?
 
JHamm said:
I would assume that if the boat was that packed then rocking on waves would cause cargo to fall off?

Well, since a single coin would sink the ship, I think we'll have to ignore rocking. But I think you're on the right track. After traveling some distance at sea, I suspect some things on the ship will be used up and make it lighter.

My solution:
It is a diesel ship and, after some distance, more than 15kg of fuel has been used up.
 
DaveC426913 said:
My solution:
It is a diesel ship and, after some distance, more than 15kg of fuel has been used up.
That, or they used up more than 15 kgs of bullets shooting at the bird.
 
The ship was loaded in a fresh water river then moved into the open saltwater sea.
 
It run aground.
 
  • #11
Jobrag said:
The ship was loaded in a fresh water river then moved into the open saltwater sea.

Ooh! Good one!
 
  • #12
sbsbhilai said:
… a bird weighing 15 kg dies and falls on the ship but the ship does not sinks. Why?

if the bird had been flying around in the hold, it would make no difference :smile:
 
  • #13
tiny-tim said:
if the bird had been flying around in the hold, it would make no difference :smile:

Ooh. Another good one.
 
  • #14
Ahah. I just figured it out. A clever riddle.

The bird was not flying - which is what we've been assuming. The bird came aboard the ship in a cage.
There is no such thing as a flying 15kg bird.
It was a turkey, and it was killed for Thanksgiving.
 
  • #15
The crew all chundered 15kg worth of lunch over the side of the boat at the sight of the dead bird?
 
  • #16
oooh good one, dave! :smile:

yes, see http://www.kcc.org.nz/albatross
 
  • #17
DaveC426913 said:
There is no such thing as a flying 15kg bird.

How about an Andean Condor?
 
  • #18
DaveC426913 said:
There is no such thing as a flying 15kg bird.

Mute swan and some bustards fly at nearly 20 kg.

There was a mute swan found in Poland that weighted 23 kg, although there are no reports about it flying.
 
  • #19
sbsbhilai said:
A ship is loaded in such a way that even if a single coin is loaded on it more, the ship will sink.
Perhaps the coin and all of the load was placed on the port side so that the ship was listing severely to port, but the bird fell on the starboard side.
 
  • #20
Borek said:
Mute swan and some bustards fly at nearly 20 kg.

There was a mute swan found in Poland that weighted 23 kg, although there are no reports about it flying.
There's a more obvious suspect for the bird, this being at sea:

Pelicans are large birds with large pouched bills. The smallest is the Brown Pelican (P. occidentalis), small individuals of which can be as little as 2.75 kg (6 lb), 106 cm (42 in) long and can have a wingspan of as little as 1.83 m (6 ft). The largest is believed to be the Dalmatian Pelican (P. crispus), at up to 15 kg (33 lb), 183 cm (72 in) long, with a maximum wingspan of 3 meters (nearly 10 foot). The Australian Pelican has the longest bill of any bird.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelican
 
  • #21
Was it a legless sea pirate’s parrot falling out of its lookout mast-cage?
 
  • #22
aaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ……………… :smile:
 
  • #23
  • #24
My daughter suggested the boat may be hydroplaning once underway, she's 10.
 
  • #25
Borek said:
Swans are migratory and they do fly over seas :smile:
I wasn't saying it couldn't have been a swan, I was saying a more likely suspect is the pelican, due to its mass and its being a sea bird.
 
  • #26
DrStupid said:
How about an Andean Condor?

Borek said:
Mute swan and some bustards fly at nearly 20 kg.

There was a mute swan found in Poland that weighted 23 kg, although there are no reports about it flying.
Hrmph. Didn't do my research thoroughly enough. My results for 'largest flying bird' were obviously in error.

Nonetheless, my solution still stands as viable. And I like it because not only does it explain how the ship didn't sink but also why the bird was there, why it died and why it wasn't just any 15kg bird.
 
  • #27
DaveC426913 said:
Hrmph. Didn't do my research thoroughly enough. My results for 'largest flying bird' were obviously in error.

Nonetheless, my solution still stands as viable. And I like it because not only does it explain how the ship didn't sink but also why the bird was there, why it died and why it wasn't just any 15kg bird.
It's a good solution except possibly for the mention of thanksgiving. The OP's name suggests the riddle might well have been generated outside the US.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 98 ·
4
Replies
98
Views
9K
  • · Replies 52 ·
2
Replies
52
Views
8K
  • · Replies 18 ·
Replies
18
Views
1K
  • · Replies 96 ·
4
Replies
96
Views
11K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
10K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
7K