Why do DVDs scatter blue light and CDs scatter white light?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the reasons behind the different light scattering properties of DVDs and CDs, specifically why DVDs appear to scatter blue light while CDs scatter white light. It touches on concepts of material composition, particle size, and the mechanisms of light scattering, with references to atmospheric phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the color of a DVD may be due to the presence of a blue azo dye in the data layer, while CDs may have a metallic layer that scatters white light.
  • Another participant questions the relevance of density in explaining the scattering of light, arguing that different materials and processes used in making DVDs and CDs are more significant factors.
  • There is a claim that clouds scatter white light due to larger particles compared to the smaller particles in the clear-blue sky, which scatter shorter wavelengths like blue light.
  • A participant proposes that the size of the indentations on DVDs and CDs could relate to their light scattering properties, suggesting that smaller indentations on DVDs might scatter blue light while larger ones on CDs scatter white light.
  • Some participants express confusion over the term "density" in this context, indicating that it may not accurately describe the differences in light scattering mechanisms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the reasons for the differences in light scattering between DVDs and CDs. Multiple competing views are presented regarding the roles of material composition, particle size, and the appropriateness of using "density" as a descriptor.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the definitions of density and how it applies to the materials of DVDs and CDs. The discussion also highlights the complexity of light scattering mechanisms, which may depend on various factors not fully explored in the thread.

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In the sky the less dense parts of the sky scatter blue light and the denser clouds scatter white light. So why does a CD scatter relativly white light and the denser DVD blue light?
 
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What do you mean? Why is a blue DVD blue? It can be blue because a blue azo dye is present on the data layer. The data layer can also be metallic which might look as if it is scattering relatively white light.
 
The claud and sky scattering has little to do with density.
 
Some dvds are "denser" than others? What does that even mean? There are several different processes by which DVDs and cds are made, using different materials that have different colors. "density" has nothing to do with it.

Clouds are not the same composition as clear-blue sky so it isn't correct just to say that a cloud is "denser". The mechanisms to cause the color have nothing at all to do with others. Atomized liquid water is essentially opaque white.
 
Thanks for the replys.
russ_watters said:
Some dvds are "denser" than others? What does that even mean? There are several different processes by which DVDs and cds are made, using different materials that have different colors. "density" has nothing to do with it.

Clouds are not the same composition as clear-blue sky so it isn't correct just to say that a cloud is "denser". The mechanisms to cause the color have nothing at all to do with others. Atomized liquid water is essentially opaque white.
I think I should explain myself better:
First of all, the reason that clouds are white because it is made out of bigger particles than the particles in the "clear-blue sky" (this is what i meant by denser)
http://acept.asu.edu/PiN/rdg/sky/sky.shtml
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/BlueSky/blue_sky.html
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/atmos/blusky.html

CDs and DVDs store memory by small indentations on the surface. The ones with more memory (DVD) have more indentations that are closer together and smaller.

But maybe the key here is the smaller, not the closer together. Just like the smaller particles of the clear-blue sky scatter shorter wavelengths (blue) and the bigger particles of the clouds all the wavelengths (white), the DVD with smaller holes scatters blue light and the bigger CD holes white light? Or is the color difference related only to difference in materials?
 
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