Why Do Equal Forces on Different Masses Result in the Same Height?

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the mechanics of two objects with different masses being propelled by a spring. The original poster is puzzled about why both objects, despite having different masses, rise to the same height when released from the spring.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the forces acting on the objects, including the spring force and gravitational force. There is a focus on the relationship between mass, acceleration, and height achieved. Some participants suggest using conservation of energy as a framework for understanding the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the assumptions made regarding forces and accelerations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the role of gravitational force and energy conservation, but no consensus has been reached on the explanation of the observed phenomenon.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of mass differences and the forces involved, questioning the completeness of the original poster's reasoning. There is an emphasis on understanding the dynamics at play without providing a definitive solution.

mrlucky0
Messages
69
Reaction score
1

Homework Statement



Object A and B are placed on a spring. Object A has twice as much mass as object B. If the spring is depressed and released, propelling the objects into air, object A will:

answer: rise to the same height as object B

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Based on my reasoning and math, I am confused why both objects would rise to the same height:

The force on both objects is the same, F. And 2*mass of B = mass of A

F = (mass of A)*(accl. A) = (mass of B)*(accl. B)
F = 2*(mass of B)*(accl. A) = (mass of B)*(accl. B)

cancel out (mass of B):
F = 2*(accl. A) = (accl. B)

Since the upward acceleration of B is twice the that of A, why would the height be the same?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
I've only briefly thought about your attempt:

You are only considering the upward forces due to the spring.

What about the force on each object due to gravity... will it be the same?

Consider...
 
Last edited:
I think the simplest way to do this problem is to use "conservation of energy". The spring has a specific amount of energy stored in it when compressed and, on release gives the same energy to A and B. They will rise to heights that give the same potential energy to both.
 
any one know how to approach this problem?
 
As the spring moves up A and B are pushed up with at all times equal speeds and their speeds are also equal when they lose contact with the spring.Take it from there.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 25 ·
Replies
25
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
Replies
8
Views
6K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
Replies
5
Views
3K