Why Do Hoop Stresses Become Infinite at Specific Angles in a Plate with a Hole?

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The discussion revolves around the physical understanding of hoop stresses in a plate with a hole, particularly focusing on the behavior of these stresses at specific angles, such as theta = +90 and -90 degrees. Participants are exploring the implications of stress concentration and the effects of boundary conditions in infinite versus finite plates.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand why hoop stresses become infinite at certain angles and how this relates to the physical setup of the problem. Questions are raised about the nature of stress at theta = 0 and the implications of the Poisson effect. There is also inquiry into the rationale behind using infinite plates as a starting point for solutions.

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Some participants have provided insights regarding the nature of hoop stresses and the simplifications that arise from considering infinite plates. There is ongoing exploration of boundary conditions and their impact on stress calculations, with multiple interpretations being discussed without a clear consensus.

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Participants are grappling with the complexities of stress concentration factors and the empirical nature of certain solutions. The discussion includes considerations of how boundary conditions influence the mathematical treatment of stress in different geometries.

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Homework Statement


Physical understanding about the variation of hoop stresses in a plate with a hole

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I have been reading about the solution of stresses in solution of plate with a hole from here: http://www.fracturemechanics.org/hole.html

. I’m unable to physically understand the following:

  1. How is that the hoop stresses become infinity at theta = + or -90? I’m unable to sense this physically? I understand that there is a hole there but at theta = 0, the hoop stresses are compressive (this also corresponds to the hole position since r = a). I’m unable to sense the two scenarios physically. That is: how the hoop stresses become infinity at r = a and theta = +90 or -90 and the hoop stresses become compressive at theta = 0?

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The hoop stress is not infinite at ##\theta = \pm 90##. It is ##3\sigma_{\infty}##. At ##\theta = \pm 90##, the hoop stress is acting in the same direction as the far field stress ##\sigma_{\infty}##. But, because there is no material in the hole to help support this tensile load, the hoop stress has to pull harder.

With regard to ##\theta = 0##, the hoop stress here is acting in the direction perpendicular to the applied load. Because the stretching is uniaxial in the far field, the far field strain is negative in this transverse direction (by the Poisson effect). The radial stress is zero here, so the tendency for the material to contract in width near the hole is less than in the far field where the radial stress is tensile. So a compressive stress in necessary here to try to get the material adjacent to the hole to try to contract by an amount on the same order as the far field.
 
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Thanks a lot Sir, that was extremely useful. One forgets the Poissons effect when thinking in polar coordinates.

Sir, I have another basic question:

1) Why are closed form solutions starting with infinite plates? What is so simple in infinite plates?

With warm regards
Kajal
 
kajalschopra said:
Thanks a lot Sir, that was extremely useful. One forgets the Poissons effect when thinking in polar coordinates.

Sir, I have another basic question:

1) Why are closed form solutions starting with infinite plates? What is so simple in infinite plates?

With warm regards
Kajal
The boundary conditions are much simpler to apply.
 
Sorry Sir, I do ot quite understand. Can you explain reference to the plate with circular hole problem (Kirsch solution)? I do understand that since the plate is infinite the hole dimensions do not come into play in the expressions for stresses sigma_rr and sigma_theta around the hole. But, do not quite understand how the boundary conditions are easier to apply.
 
kajalschopra said:
Sorry Sir, I do ot quite understand. Can you explain reference to the plate with circular hole problem (Kirsch solution)? I do understand that since the plate is infinite the hole dimensions do not come into play in the expressions for stresses sigma_rr and sigma_theta around the hole. But, do not quite understand how the boundary conditions are easier to apply.
Maybe I didn't express my answer quite right. In this problem, having the boundary condition at infinity simplified the form of the solution to stress equilibrium equations. Just imagine what the solution would be like if, rather than the boundary conditions being applied at infinity, the boundary were located about parallel lines only about 1 hole diameter away on either side of the hole .
 
If the plate weren't infinite, then the length and width of the plate and the hole's horizontal and vertical position in the plate would all be part of the solution. Also, the free edges at the left and right would have to be taken into account as boundary conditions. When you pull on a strip of material at both ends, it pinches in the middle, and modeling that with boundary conditions on the sides is difficult.
 
Thank you very much, sir's.

I have been reading about solution of finite width plate

http://www.fracturemechanics.org/hole.html

As I see, there is not much logic in deriving the solution of finite width plates using the solution of infinite width plate. As I see the result of stress concentration factor Kt is completely empirical. The nominal stress cited in the above example is but a result of experimental observations.

Am I right?
 
kajalschopra said:
Thank you very much, sir's.

I have been reading about solution of finite width plate

http://www.fracturemechanics.org/hole.html

As I see, there is not much logic in deriving the solution of finite width plates using the solution of infinite width plate. As I see the result of stress concentration factor Kt is completely empirical. The nominal stress cited in the above example is but a result of experimental observations.

Am I right?
I don't think so. I think the empirical equation was derived by fitting a polynomial to the mathematical solution of the elastic stress equilibrium equations for the case of a finite width. The mathematical solution was probably obtained numerically using finite element.
 
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ok..last question, sir./

Why is that the solution for stresses is expressed and derived in polar (in case of circle) or elliptical (in case of ellipse) coordinates? Why is it difficult to derive in Cartesian coordinates?
 
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kajalschopra said:
ok..last question, sir./

Why is that the solution for stresses is expressed and derived in polar (in case of circle) or elliptical (in case of ellipse) coordinates? Why is it difficult to derive in Cartesian coordinates?
The equations turn out to be easier to solve that way.
 

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