Re4: The collecting of race data by the Dutch government
Originally posted by Evo
Originally posted by hitssquad
the http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/nl.html#People is more conclusive as to whether or not The Netherlands collects race population data.
I don't see any races listed. I see ethnic groups showing country of origin. Looks like Nereid was correct.
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2 a : relating to community of physical and mental traits possessed by the members of a group as a product of their common heredity and cultural tradition <influenced by
ethnic and cultural ties— J.F.Kennedy> <the boundaries along the West African coast were not plotted with regard to the ancient
ethnic frontiers— A.H.Young-O'Brien> b : having or originating from racial, linguistic, and cultural ties with a specific group <Negroes, Irish, Italians, Germans, Poles, and other
ethnic groups— F.J.Brown & J.S.Roucek> <displaced persons, 653 of them
ethnic Germans—
New York Herald Tribune> [/color]
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Merriam-Webster's Unabridged Dictionary, 3.0. Entry #2 for
ethnic.
The CIA Factbook lists ethnicity largely as nation of origin, and nations are often relatively racially homogenous. The non-Dutch ethnicities http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/nl.html#People...
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Dutch 83%, other 17% (of which 9% are non-western origin mainly Turks, Moroccans, Antilleans, Surinamese and Indonesians) (1999 est.) [/color]
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...relate to nations (or ethnically-distinct territories as in the case of the Caribbean islands of the
Netherlands Antilles) with the following ethnic profiles:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/tu.html#People: Turkish 80%, Kurdish 20%
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/mo.html#People: Arab-Berber 99.1%, other 0.7%, Jewish 0.2%
Antilles: (see below)
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ns.html#People: Hindustani (also known locally as "East Indians"; their ancestors emigrated from northern India in the latter part of the 19th century) 37%, Creole (mixed white and black) 31%, Javanese 15%, "Maroons" (their African ancestors were brought to the country in the 17th and 18th centuries as slaves and escaped to the interior) 10%, Amerindian 2%, Chinese 2%, white 1%, other 2%
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/id.html#People: Javanese 45%, Sundanese 14%, Madurese 7.5%, coastal Malays 7.5%, other 26%
One might suppose that the government of the Kingdom of the Netherlands would differentiate between Turkish Turks and Kurdish Turks to the point that the CIA's listing of ethnic Turks consists only of Ethnic Turks and not of Kurdish Turks.
As far as the Antilles is concerned, of the Netherlands Antilles island of
Curaçao, "About 85 percent of the population is black; the remainder are of Arawak, Spanish, and Dutch ancestry." (Microsoft Encarta 2002) The rest of the Antilles may similarly be largely black African and Spanish and Arawak, considering the history of the area.
Suriname seems genuinely divided among African blacks, Javanese, Europeans, and northern Indians. It might be enlightening to see whether the immigrant population from Suriname is similarly mixed and, if it is, how the government of the Kingdom of the Netherlands quantifies their racial backgrounds.
Indonesia may appear similarly mixed at first glance, but the apparent mixture might be reduceable to mainly a relatively homogenous Malay population and a relatively homogenous Han Chinese population, as the Microsoft Encarta 2002 entry for Indonesia migt seem to suggest:
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The Javanese, who live mainly in central and eastern Java, are the largest ethnic group, constituting 45 percent of Indonesia’s population. On the western end of Java are the Sundanese, who make up 14 percent of the population and are the second largest group. Other significant ethnic groups include the Madurese, who hail from Madura, off the northeast coast of Java, and make up 8 percent of the population; and the ethnic Malay, who are dispersed throughout several areas, and make up 7 percent of the population. Among the ethnic groups on Sumatra are the Bataks, who cluster around Lake Toba; the Minangkabau, from the western highlands; the Acehnese, from the far north; and the Lampungese, who live in the south. On Sulawesi, the Minahasans live in the north, the Bugis and Makassarese cluster around the coasts in the south, and the Toraja inhabit much of the interior. Kalimantan is populated by more than 200 groups; most of these are tribes of the Dayak ethnic group in the interior or are ethnic Malay living on the coast. The people of Papua are of Melanesian descent, as are some residents from smaller eastern islands. Several million Indonesians of Chinese descent are concentrated in urban areas. Smaller numbers of Indians, Arabs, and Europeans are scattered around the archipelago.
Ethnic tensions simmer in Indonesia. The movement of many Javanese to Papua under the transmigration program has created tensions with native residents there. Many Indonesians have also come into conflict with residents of Chinese origin, who have been historically successful in business ventures and generally enjoy a higher standard of living than Indonesians of Malay descent. Frustration over the actual or perceived wealth of the Chinese has led to riots in towns and cities on Java and other parts of Indonesia, particularly in 1997 and 1998 when the Chinese were blamed for Indonesia’s economic problems. Many Chinese Indonesians fled the country at that time. [/color]
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-Chris
) - or their forebears did - and some can trace their ancestry to some Spanish invaders.
