Why do people say that engineering can or does make one become insane

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The discussion centers around the perception that studying engineering may lead to mental instability or insanity. Participants explore whether this notion is a joke, a stereotype, or based on historical examples, while considering the demands of engineering education and its impact on students' mental health.

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  • Some participants question whether the idea of engineering causing insanity is a joke or has a basis in reality.
  • Historical references are made to notable figures in physics and mathematics, such as Ludwig Boltzmann and Paul Ehrenfest, who faced tragic ends, suggesting a potential link between intense study and mental health issues.
  • One participant proposes that perceptions of engineering as difficult may stem from those outside the field viewing it as impossibly hard, leading to the belief that only "insane" individuals would pursue it.
  • Another viewpoint suggests that students who struggle with university demands may not adapt their study techniques from high school, contributing to stress and mental strain.
  • There is mention of a stereotype that individuals drawn to engineering and sciences may not fit conventional social norms, which could influence perceptions of their mental health.
  • One participant emphasizes that effective time management and passion for the subject can mitigate the challenges faced in engineering studies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no consensus on whether the perception of engineering leading to insanity is valid or merely a stereotype. Some acknowledge the challenges of the field while others highlight the importance of balance and personal management.

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The discussion reflects varying assumptions about mental health, societal perceptions, and the demands of engineering education, without resolving the complexities involved.

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they've said before that studying engineering makes a person go insane, become unstable, or to just lose ones mind, how might this be true, or is this a joke ? This is confusing as to what they might mean?
 
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You are thinking of statistical mechanics.

Ludwig Boltzmann, who spent much of his life studying statistical mechanics, died in 1906, by his own hand. Paul Ehrenfest, carrying on the work, died similarly in 1933. Now it is our turn to study statistical mechanics. Perhaps it will be wise to approach the subject cautiously. (Opening lines of "States of Matter", by D.L. Goodstein).
 
Just a shot in the dark here but people with low-level or no-math careers (and people who didn't go to college) often think of science and engineering courses as being impossibly hard, and think that anyone who would willingly put himself through that must be insane.

As a physics student I would say that the level of abstraction, logic, and effort required to succeed in those careers might substantially alter the way your brain tackles a certain thought, I can't really explain it but I've seen math students with really unorthodox ways of concluding B when given A.
 
I think such statements largely come from students who still try to apply "worked in high school" study (or lack thereof) techniques when faced with a university course load and all the demands of university life. Studying engineering or physics is certainly demanding, and requires a considerable effort to succeed.

If you keep your life balanced, get enough sleep, exercise, eat properly, and balance study time with constructive down time, you should get though without any problems.
 
It could also be because so many of histories famous mathematicians/scientists went crazy or killed themselves!
 
It's a stereotype.

Sometimes the sciences and engineering draw people too them who don't necessarily "fit in" everywhere. They tend not to be the most sociable people and look strange to others.
 
land_of_ice said:
they've said before that studying engineering makes a person go insane, become unstable, or to just lose ones mind, how might this be true, or is this a joke ? This is confusing as to what they might mean?

Who is "they"?

In my humble opinion; if one manages one's time well and has a passion for whatever branch of engineering is being pursued, then the challenges will be conquerable and well worth it.
 
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