Why do -pi/2 and pi/2 Equal 1 and 5 in This Integral Problem?

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The discussion revolves around an integral problem involving the evaluation of the integral ##\int^{π/2}_{-π/2}\frac{4cosθ}{3+sin2θ}dθ## and the transformation of variables leading to the expressions for the limits of integration, specifically why ##u(-π/2)=1## and ##u(π/2)=5##. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and clarification of trigonometric identities.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that ##u(\theta)=3+2\sin\theta## is used to transform the integral, leading to the evaluation of limits at ##-π/2## and ##π/2##.
  • One participant points out that ##\sin(-π/2) = -1## and ##\sin(π/2) = 1##, which contributes to understanding the values of ##u## at these angles.
  • Another participant argues that the function ##u(\theta)## is neither even nor odd, suggesting that ##u(\theta)## and ##u(-\theta)## do not have a direct relationship.
  • There is a correction regarding the interpretation of the limits, clarifying that it is ##u(π/2) = 5##, not ##π/2 = 5##, and that ##\sin(π/2) = 1## is relevant to this evaluation.
  • Some participants express confusion about the notation and ask questions regarding LaTeX formatting, indicating a desire for clarity in mathematical presentation.
  • A participant points out a potential inconsistency in the integral's expression, questioning whether it should be ##\sin(2θ)## or ##2\sin(θ)##.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between the function values and the angles, with some clarifying misunderstandings while others raise questions about the correctness of the expressions used. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the notation and the correct formulation of the integral.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the correct form of the integral and the implications of the trigonometric identities used. The discussion also highlights the importance of precise notation in mathematical expressions.

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Please take a look the below problem:

##\int^{π/2}_{-π/2}\frac{4cosθ}{3+sin2θ}dθ##

##
u = 3 + 2 sinθ, du = 2 cosθ dθ,
##
##
u(-π/2)=1, u(π/2)=5
##

##\int^{π/2}_{-π/2}\frac{4cosθ}{3+sin2θ}dθ=\int^{5}_{1}\frac{2}{u}du##
##=2ln|u|]^{5}_{1}##
##=2ln|5|-2ln|1|##
##=2ln5##

I wonder why -pi/2 = 1 and pi/2 = 5?

Note:
How to insert latex?
How do you add space in latex?
How do you align at =?
 
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because sin(-pi/2) = -1 and sin(pi/2) = 1
 
Well, the function u(\theta)=3+2\sin\theta is neither even nor odd so u(\theta) and u(-\theta) have no relationship!

basty said:
How to insert latex?
You did insert latex!
basty said:
How do you add space in latex?
Just type a \ followed by a space.
basty said:
How do you align at =?

Put a & before the = and at next lines, put & where you want to be aligned with =.
 
td21 said:
because sin(-pi/2) = -1 and sin(pi/2) = 1

Why pi/2 = 5?
 
basty said:
Why pi/2 = 5?

pi/2 ≠ 5. It's u(π/2) = 5, where u(θ)=3+2sinθ, and sin(π/2) = 1

You should brush up on your trigonometry before diving into calculus.
 
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basty said:
Please take a look the below problem:
##\int^{π/2}_{-π/2}\frac{4cosθ}{3+sin2θ}dθ##
##
u = 3 + 2 sinθ, du = 2 cosθ dθ,
##
##
u(-π/2)=1, u(π/2)=5
##
##\int^{π/2}_{-π/2}\frac{4cosθ}{3+sin2θ}dθ=\int^{5}_{1}\frac{2}{u}du##
##=2ln|u|]^{5}_{1}##
##=2ln|5|-2ln|1|##
##=2ln5##
I wonder why -pi/2 = 1 and pi/2 = 5?
Note:
How to insert latex?
How do you add space in latex?
How do you align at =?
Your first integral has sin2θ, while the next line has 2sinθ. Which is it?
 
basty said:
[...]
How to insert latex?
How do you add space in latex?
How do you align at =?

Since you asked these questions, it's nice to know how to render functions nicely: \sin x renders \sin x, to be compared to sin x. Likewise for \ln x vs ln x.
 
mathman said:
θ

Your first integral has sin2θ, while the next line has 2sinθ. Which is it?

Sorry it's an error. The correct one is 2 sinθ.
 

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