Why do radicals attack polyunsaturated fatty acids?

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The discussion revolves around the vulnerability of polyunsaturated fatty acids to radical attacks, exploring the underlying mechanisms and chemical principles involved. Participants delve into the nature of unsaturated bonds, radical formation, and the specifics of addition reactions in the context of organic chemistry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the unsaturation in fatty acids allows them to unfold, making them more susceptible to radical attacks, but seeks clarification on how radicals propagate in fatty acid chains.
  • Another participant notes that double bonds in unsaturated fatty acids are particularly vulnerable to reactions with radicals, contrasting this with the slower reaction rates of radicals with aliphatic hydrocarbons.
  • A participant expresses curiosity about the reasons behind the vulnerability of double bonds, mentioning hybridization and pi bonds as potential factors influencing radical interactions.
  • Another participant explains the mechanism of addition reactions involving radicals, detailing how Br2 dissociates into radicals that can react with the high electron density of double bonds, leading to the formation of carbocations and subsequent bonding with other radicals.

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Participants generally agree on the susceptibility of unsaturated fatty acids to radical attacks due to their double bonds, but there is ongoing exploration and clarification regarding the mechanisms and specific interactions involved.

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Some assumptions about the nature of radical reactions and the specifics of bond enthalpy are present, but not fully resolved. The discussion includes references to diagrams and chemical mechanisms that may require further elaboration for complete understanding.

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Is it because they are unsaturated and can unfold. I understand how one radical would create another radical but I don't know exactly how radical could spread in a fatty acid chain. Any diagram would be useful. Thank you :smile:
 
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The double bonds in unsaturated fattly acids are especially vulnerable to reaction with radicals while radicals react much more slowly with aliphatic hydrocarbons (hydrocarbons with no double bonds).
 
Ygggdrasil said:
The double bonds in unsaturated fattly acids are especially vulnerable to reaction with radicals while radicals react much more slowly with aliphatic hydrocarbons (hydrocarbons with no double bonds).

Thank you for the reply but you are surely capable of telling me why that is so :smile: I read theory about hybridisation so you can use that if you want. Thanks :smile: Is this something to do with a pi bond?
 
I think this can be sufficiently explained through the mechanism of addition reactions.

Let's say Br2 dissociates to two electrically neutral Br atoms. Notice these are radicals because of the unpaired electron on each.

Since the double bond has a paticularily high electron density, it is a prime target for radicals, as orbitals can overlap and form covalent bonds. Because of electron-electron repulsion, "stealing" on of these electrons is much easier than in a C-C single bond. Simply put the bond enthalpy of the C-Br bond is lower than the bond enthalpy of the C=C double bond, so the Br radical has little trouble stealing one of the electrons from the C=C double bond. Then the Br- ion bonds to one of the carbons from the double bond through attraction on opposite charges (stealing the electron makes the acid a carbokation). The other karbon from the double bond now has an unpaired electron (see fig), and the other Br atom from the Br2 molecule can bond with it and complete the addition reaction.

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