Why do so many people despise school?

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The discussion revolves around the reasons many individuals express disdain for school, encompassing experiences from high school to college. Participants share personal anecdotes and reflections on the educational system, addressing issues related to engagement, teaching methods, and social dynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a transformation in their views on education, noting that they found value in learning as they matured.
  • Others articulate a strong dislike for school due to feelings of boredom, lack of engagement, and the stress associated with homework and deadlines.
  • One participant contrasts their high school experience, which they found unchallenging and disruptive, with a more positive college experience where they felt more motivated and engaged.
  • Another participant highlights the challenges of learning in a lecture format, suggesting that they learn better through self-study and direct engagement with the material.
  • Concerns are raised about the social environment in schools, where talent can lead to bullying and where disruptive behavior can hinder the learning experience.
  • Some participants mention the impact of sleep deprivation on their ability to engage with school, noting that early start times and lengthy lectures contribute to their dissatisfaction.
  • There are mixed feelings about the necessity of certain classes in college, with some arguing that required courses can be uninteresting and a waste of time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express a range of negative feelings towards school, but there is no consensus on the reasons for this disdain. Multiple competing views exist regarding the effectiveness of teaching methods, the social dynamics within schools, and the overall value of the educational experience.

Contextual Notes

Participants' experiences and opinions are highly subjective and vary widely, reflecting personal circumstances and preferences. There are unresolved issues regarding the effectiveness of different educational approaches and the role of social interactions in the learning environment.

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I used to be one of them, but my eyes opened as I matured--and I saw the value in learning. I simply just love it, its gives me a meaning to myself now.

Why do so many people despise school? I see it so much and it bothers me because I used to be down that route earlier.
 
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I despise school because I don't like going to class while half asleep, getting bored while the teacher drones on and on, spending hours on homework, and stressing out over the essay that I forgot about and that's due tomorrow. This certainly doesn't mean that I don't see the value in learning. I also see the value in getting a root canal, but that doesn't mean I enjoy getting one.
 
Nano-Passion said:
I used to be one of them, but my eyes opened as I matured--and I saw the value in learning. I simply just love it, its gives me a meaning to myself now.

Why do so many people despise school? I see it so much and it bothers me because I used to be down that route earlier.
I despised HS because it was boring and undemanding. I enjoyed college because many of the courses challenged me. Plus, I was paying for it and took the courses that I wanted.

I had no loans because I worked full-time all summer and part-time all through school to pay my way. If I didn't enjoy college, I would not have worked so hard to make it possible. I was the very first person on either side of my large extended family to attend college, and it opened doors for me. Don't attend college because you are told that you "have" to attend to get a good job, or that you "have" to get a degree - do it because you want to learn, and if you are not getting your money's worth, kick up a fuss or make alternative arrangements. You're paying for the access to education - make sure you get what you're paying for.
 
I hated school because of how awful it was at doing it's job. Essentially I just ended up stuck in a variety of rooms with a class mainly consisting of disruptive people who didn't want to be there whilst an adult alternated between drawing things on a board and trying to curb the excesses of the disruptive people.

The social environment was one whereby if you were talented at any subject you were a target for bullying, if you didn't match the ideals of what one should look like you were a target for bullying, if you didn't bully you were a target for bullying.

6th form and university were so much better because everybody there wanted to be there.
 
Not sure why, but I always hated school. And I was a smarta$$, too. Later, when I was an instructor, I always said if I ever had a student like me, I'd throw them right out of the class. :smile:
 
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I like learning. I just don't like being short-slept--teenagers naturally gravitate towards sleeping in--and being surrounded by idiots who can't see the value of an education.
 
I don't like college, because I MUST sit in on lectures that ever hardly teach me anything. I learn almost exclusively from reading the book, deriving questions from reading the book, then asking the professor after class those questions. I just don't understand how anyone expects a 1 hour shallow discussion on a topic will help anyone much. The book is far more detailed.

Some will say 'taking classes they don't enjoy' in college, but that is minimal since most classes you have to take (even unrelated to your major) are mature, necessary, and interesting.

And of course, I hate having to wake up, losing sleep and the will to study.

As for HS:
It had the same sleep problem except HS was early as hell no matter what (no schedule control), so it was even worse. It also taught me nothing (except I had to be in lectures for even longer than in college AND the material was BORING and BASIC unlike college). Here, unlike college, I found the 'taking classes I don't like' problem to actually exist. Wellness? Gym? Music? These were things that just didn't interest me yet wasted all of my time.

But on top of the lectures not teaching me anything, the book almost taught me nothing too. HS needs to be harder and shorter.

I feel like college is a bit too slow also to accommodate the horde (for many classes). I swear, many classes are a bunch of boring, useless lectures then a couple days of studying before the test. I could have finished those courses in 2 weeks with an A (e.g. my tech elective engineering economics (ie405) or introduction to programming c++ or our logic course with FPGA boards etc.)
 

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