University Search for a Physics Major

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The discussion revolves around the search for universities offering physics majors, particularly focusing on institutions that are reputable yet less competitive than top-tier schools like MIT and Princeton. Participants explore options in the US and UK, while also considering financial aid and the educational landscape in Canada and India.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks recommendations for good universities for physics that are less competitive than elite institutions.
  • Another participant questions the need for financial aid and suggests considering Canadian universities, noting potential challenges for international students regarding tuition and aid.
  • Concerns are raised about the competitiveness of entrance exams for institutions in India, with a participant expressing a preference for theoretical physics over engineering-focused programs.
  • A suggestion is made to explore liberal arts colleges in the US, with specific mentions of Carleton College and Wellesley College, highlighting their strengths and resources available to students.
  • Clarification is provided regarding Wellesley College's gender-specific admissions policy, which only accepts female students.
  • Discussion includes the challenges of obtaining full financial aid, emphasizing that top-tier schools are more likely to meet full financial needs for international students.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the best options for studying physics, with no consensus on specific universities or the viability of Canadian institutions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best path forward for the original poster.

Contextual Notes

There are uncertainties regarding the availability of financial aid for international students at various institutions, as well as the competitiveness of admissions processes across different countries.

  • #31
It's a matter of degree. It's easier to get admitted for an in-state student (e.g. Berkeley has a 3.0 GPA minimum in-state vs 3.4 for out of state) but it is less relatively easy than in the past.

hutchphd said:
I have no idea as to costs...
Many of those are state schools, and give very little aid to out of state students.
 
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  • #32
OP a good source of information with regards to finding schools with good funding for international students is College Confidential.
 
  • #33
Thanks a lot! I'll certainly look into all the suggestions. I didn't even know half of the universities mentioned in #26, thanks a lot.Also since I was advised to apply wide as possible and since US has been well represented in this thread, Can someone tell me about universities in UK. From what I have researched, Oxford/Cambridge , Imperial College London and University College London seem top of the pack. But that's the extent of my knowledge.
 
  • #34
gwnorth said:
OP a good source of information with regards to finding schools with good funding for international students is College Confidential.
I came across the website but I wasn't sure how much to trust it. Are there any other reliable sources? So far I've erred on the side of caution and stuck to official University websites.
 
  • #35
Falgun said:
I came across the website but I wasn't sure how much to trust it. Are there any other reliable sources? So far I've erred on the side of caution and stuck to official University websites.
You can trust it. Of most value I find are the forums. There are many very knowledgeable people who can help steer you in the right direction.
 
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  • #36
hutchphd said:
I will throw out about ten that come to mind. I am not expert

One I will mention that is known as good but is not that hard to get into is Virginia Tech. Exactly why that is, I do not know.
https://www.niche.com/colleges/virginia-tech/admissions/

That is in the US.

A good course in Australia that is easy to get into is:
https://www.griffith.edu.au/study/degrees/bachelor-of-science-advanced-honours-1330

Most who do that degree double major in physics and applied math then decide what to get their honours in 4th year ie either physics or applied math honours.

If you are willing to consider the UK, the following is interesting:
https://www.open.ac.uk/choose/openplus/

Thanks
Bill
 
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  • #37
I'm somewhat confused. From what I've seen some sources state the maximum possible GPA as 4.0 and some as 5.0 . Which of the following is more common? In India, we usually calculate the Cumulative Grade Point Average of an academic year to have the maximum value of 10.0 .

Also there's this concept of weighted and unweighted GPA. Correct me if I'm wrong, weighted GPA takes into account the difficulty of the courses taken and unweighted GPA does not. Which is commonly used in Uni admissions or does it vary among different institutions.

If so how is weighted average calculated?
 
  • #38
It's weighted GPA in the last line not weighted average.
 
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  • #39
Falgun said:
It's weighted GPA in the last line not weighted average.

To elaborate, many HS's in the USA weight honours and AP courses by taking them out of 5 instead of 4. That is how it is possible to get a GPA greater than 4. In Australia, you get extra points for taking more challenging courses like math that includes calculus and a foreign language. You get the most significant weighting for completing the equivalent of a year at university - with progressively less weighting for doing less than a year. In Aus, you have the university of open learning anyone can do courses from. Just two university subjects with at least a credit and simply passing grade 12 (or in some cases not even competing HS) will usually get you into most studies.

In the UK, it is different again, but I am not sure of the exact details. The one I suggested is you do two years part-time at their university of open learning, and you gain automatic entry to the second year at some universities.

Thanks
Bill
 
  • #40
bhobba said:
To elaborate, many HS's in the USA weight honours and AP courses by taking them out of 5 instead of 4. That is how it is possible to get a GPA greater than 4. In Australia, you get extra points for taking more challenging courses like math that includes calculus and a foreign language. You get the most significant weighting for completing the equivalent of a year at university - with progressively less weighting for doing less than a year. In Aus, you have the university of open learning anyone can do courses from. Just two university subjects with at least a credit and simply passing grade 12 (or in some cases not even competing HS) will usually get you into most studies.

In the UK, it is different again, but I am not sure of the exact details. The one I suggested is you do two years part-time at their university of open learning, and you gain automatic entry to the second year at some universities.

Thanks
Bill
Thanks for clearing that up.

Actually if you choose to study science in your junior and senior year in India you get the option of choosing the following combinations:

  1. Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics, Elective, English
  2. Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Elective, English
  3. Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics, Biology , English
I have chosen the 3rd combination. From comparing standard textbooks at US universities , I find that my courses are just below a University course. For example anyone who studies mathematics at Junior and Senior years has to learn Single variable Calculus.

So I feel pretty much ready for a US uni . But I'm still planning to take AP courses in Physics C , Calculus BC, and Statistics and maybe Chemistry. Since my school doesn't have APs , I'll travel to a nearby city to take the exams. So I guess I'll have to self report the scores, since they won't show up on my transcript (right?) .

Also for some background information, I'll be taking the SAT in March. I've consistently hitting 1500+ on official tests by College Board.

I'm also prepping for physics Olympiad and astronomy Olympiad this year.
 
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  • #41
OP you won't need to self-report your AP scores. You will instruct the College Board (issuers of AP courses) to submit the scores on your behalf.
 

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