Why Do Some Fluorescent Lights Flicker While Others Don't?

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A Mystery re Fluorescent Lights

I have a fixture F1 from the 1960s with two 2' fluorescent lights B1 and B2. Recently they both began to flicker. A second fixture F2 has a single 2' light B3 which did not flicker.

In F2 I replaced B3 with B1. It did not flicker. I then replaced in F2 B1 with B2. It did flicker. I then in F1, put in B1 and B3. There was no flicker.

The Mystery: Apparently in F1 the bad bulb B2 not only flickered itself, it also caused the good F1 to flicker.
Has anyone an solution explaining this mystery?
 
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Possibly caused by a life expired starter . Try putting a new one in .
 
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Buzz Bloom said:
A Mystery re Fluorescent Lights

I have a fixture F1 from the 1960s with two 2' fluorescent lights B1 and B2. Recently they both began to flicker. A second fixture F2 has a single 2' light B3 which did not flicker.

In F2 I replaced B3 with B1. It did not flicker. I then replaced in F2 B1 with B2. It did flicker. I then in F1, put in B1 and B3. There was no flicker.

The Mystery: Apparently in F1 the bad bulb B2 not only flickered itself, it also caused the good F1 to flicker.
Has anyone an solution explaining this mystery?
Yes, this is common.
 
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Hi NO:
Thanks for your questions.
NascentOxygen said:
The tube prone to flickering is getting on in years, is it?
Yes.
NascentOxygen said:
Near the ends of the glass is getting dark?
Yes.
NascentOxygen said:
Could you notice whether the flickering pair were flickering in phase—or exactly in antiphase?
The flickering was too fast to distinguish the relative phase.

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Buzz
 
The flickering is half your line frequency?

I think the origin lies in the deteriorating emission of one of the aging filaments. When it goes positive it needs to overcome a higher voltage to achieve conduction so ends up conducting less strongly or for less of its half-cycle making the light output lower on that polarity half-cycle. The darkening areas on the glass—that's metal that has evaporated off the electrodes.

You could probably fashion a simple stroboscope to determine whether the companion tube dims or brightens when the first dims.
 
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