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The discussion centers on the integral $$\int \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2-49}}dx$$ and the differing results obtained through two methods: inspection and trigonometric substitution. Method 1 yields $$\sqrt{x^2-49}+C$$ while Method 2 results in $$7\sqrt{x^2-49}+C$$, leading to a discrepancy by a factor of 7. The participants clarify that the factor does not affect the integral's value as it pertains to the difference between endpoints, emphasizing the importance of understanding the relationship between the two methods.

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$$\int \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2-49}}dx$$

Method 1: (by inspection)

$$\int \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2-49}}dx=\int \,d\sqrt{x^2-49}=\sqrt{x^2-49}+C$$

Method 2: (Trig substitution)

$$\int \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2-49}}dx=\int \frac{7\sec(\theta)}{\sqrt{49\sec^2(\theta) -49}}d(7\sec(\theta))=7\int \frac{\sec^2(\theta)\tan(\theta)}{\left| \tan(\theta) \right|}$$

Let's assume $\tan(\theta)>0$
$$=7 \int \sec^2(\theta) \,d\theta=7\sqrt{x^2-49}+C$$

Why do the answers differ by a factor of $7$? I know it doesn't matter in integration, because you just want the difference between endpoints, i.e $F(b)-F(a)$=$7F(b)-7F(a)$, but it's the first time I've seen this.
 
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Rido12 said:
$$\int \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2-49}}dx$$

Method 1: (by inspection)

$$\int \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2-49}}dx=\int \,d\sqrt{x^2-49}=\sqrt{x^2-49}+C$$

Method 2: (Trig substitution)

$$\int \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2-49}}dx=\int \frac{7\sec(\theta)}{\sqrt{49\sec^2(\theta) -49}}d(7\sec(\theta))=7\int \frac{\sec^2(\theta)\tan(\theta)}{\left| \tan(\theta) \right|}$$

Let's assume $\tan(\theta)>0$
$$=7 \int \sec^2(\theta) \,d\theta=7\sqrt{x^2-49}+C$$

Why do the answers differ by a factor of $7$? I know it doesn't matter in integration, because you just want the difference between endpoints, i.e $F(b)-F(a)$=$7F(b)-7F(a)$, but it's the first time I've seen this.

Hi Rido12,

There's a mistake in your calculation from Method 2. You should have

$\displaystyle 7\int \sec^2(\theta) \, d\theta = 7\tan(\theta) + C = \sqrt{x^2 - 49} + C$.
 
How? We have $x=7 \sec(\theta)$, so $\frac{x}{7} = \sec(\theta)$. From a right-triangle, I see that $\tan(\theta)=\sqrt{x^2-49}$.
Therefore, $7 \tan(\theta)+C=7\sqrt{x^2-49}+C$

Where's my mistake? Wait. you are right. $\tan(\theta)=\frac{\sqrt{x^2-49}}{7}$. My brain is failing me now. (Crying)
 
Since $x = 7\sec(\theta)$, $x^2 - 49 = 49\tan^2(\theta)$. Thus $\sqrt{x^2 - 49} = 7\tan(\theta)$. Keep in mind that $1 + \tan^2(\theta) = \sec^2(\theta)$.
 
Rido12 said:
$$\int \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2-49}}dx$$

Method 1: (by inspection)

$$\int \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2-49}}dx=\int \,d\sqrt{x^2-49}=\sqrt{x^2-49}+C$$

Method 2: (Trig substitution)

$$\int \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2-49}}dx=\int \frac{7\sec(\theta)}{\sqrt{49\sec^2(\theta) -49}}d(7\sec(\theta))=7\int \frac{\sec^2(\theta)\tan(\theta)}{\left| \tan(\theta) \right|}$$

Let's assume $\tan(\theta)>0$
$$=7 \int \sec^2(\theta) \,d\theta=7\sqrt{x^2-49}+C$$

Why do the answers differ by a factor of $7$? I know it doesn't matter in integration, because you just want the difference between endpoints, i.e $F(b)-F(a)$=$7F(b)-7F(a)$, but it's the first time I've seen this.

Why bother with a trig substitution? $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \frac{\mathrm{d}}{\mathrm{d}x} \left( x^2 - 49 \right) = 2x \end{align*}$, which you almost have. So write it as $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \int{ \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2 - 49} }\,\mathrm{d}x} = \frac{1}{2} \int{ \frac{2x}{\sqrt{x^2 - 49}}\,\mathrm{d}x} \end{align*}$ and substitute $\displaystyle \begin{align*} u = x^2 - 49 \implies \mathrm{d}u = 2x\,\mathrm{d}x \end{align*}$...
 
I saw that the derivative was in the top, but I just wanted to use it anyway. I did that substitution in method 1 of my original post.
 

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