Why does a positive lens focus two images at different lengths?

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The discussion revolves around a lab experiment involving a positive lens, a light source, and a screen. The original poster describes observing two distinct focused images at different distances from the lens while varying its position along a track. The sizes of the images differ significantly, prompting questions about the underlying principles and mathematical relationships governing this behavior.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationships between object distance, image distance, and focal length, referencing relevant equations. The original poster seeks clarification on the nature of the two distinct image distances and their mathematical representation.

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Some participants have provided equations that relate the focal length to the object and image distances, as well as constraints based on the experimental setup. There is an acknowledgment of multiple solutions corresponding to the two focused images observed, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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The focal length of the lens is noted to be 10 cm, and the total distance between the light source and the screen is fixed at 1 meter. These parameters are central to the discussion but are not fully resolved.

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Missed this part of the lab and I need to complete my lab write up.

We have a light source at one end of a track, and at the other end a screen. there is a positive lens in between them. When we set the screen at a distance away from the light source, let's say one meter, and slide the lens on the track connecting them, starting from the light source and moving towards the screen, at two distinct locations we get a focussed image. The first image, closest to the light source, is roughly 4X the size actual size of the image, while other is roughly 1/4X the size. My question is, why is this? what are those lengths? are the the focal length? and how can I show these two lengths mathematically?

Thanks!
 
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You have two equations to solve simultaneously.
The first one relates the focal distance to the object and image distances.
The second represents the constraint on your setup. What is that constraint?
 
The focal length of the positive lens was supposed to be 10cm, the distance between the light and projected image was 1 meter, is this was you need?
 
The distance between the lens and the object (light source) represented by p and the distance between the lens and the image (screen) represented by q satisfy the equation [tex]\frac{1}{p}+\frac{1}{q} = \frac{1}{f},[/tex] where f is the focal length of the lens. In the experiment you described they also satisfy [tex]p+q=L,[/tex] where L is the fixed distance between the light source and the screen - one meter according with your description. These two equations have two possible solutions - the two situations where a focused image was obtained. Combine that with the fact that the magnification M of a simple set up like that can be calculated by [tex]M=\frac{-q}{p},[/tex] and you'll have all you need to understand your experiment.
 
awesome, makes sense. Thanks to you both!
 

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